Stevo985 Posted January 1, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 1, 2016 On 31/12/2015 at 19:06, Zatman said: He was so bad that compare to our last 3 managers opening 8 games in charge Garde Played 8 Won 0 Draws 4 Lost 4 Sherwood Played 8 Won 3 Draw 1 Lost 4 Lambert Played 8 Won 1 Drew 2 Lost 5 Sherwood is best manager we had since Houllier which is why he should have got more time Worst use of stats... ever. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Wow, did Lambert lose his 5 of his first 8 games? The stats don't consider what players they had at their disposal, or who the opponents were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Another excellent chart for Randy Lerner to hang above his shitter at home. Stop blaming randy Lerner. Poor owner yes. An owner that has performed so badly that he warrants a team with a pathetic 8 points after half a season - certainly not. I seem to recall you are a small business owner? As am I. Turnover aside, which would make it medium sized at a guess, Aston Villa is a small business too. So as a small businesses owner yourself, at what point do you think it is acceptable to absolve yourself of blame? All of it, even if you only hired the guy who hired the guy who **** it all up. Randy Lerner is 100% to blame for our current predicament. I imagine he'd admit that too. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 (edited) This time tomorrow we could be just eight points from the safety zone. Edited January 1, 2016 by useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 2 minutes ago, useless said: This time tomorrow we could be just eight points from the safety zone. we could also be 14 points as well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 4 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: I seem to recall you are a small business owner? As am I. Turnover aside, which would make it medium sized at a guess, Aston Villa is a small business too. So as a small businesses owner yourself, at what point do you think it is acceptable to absolve yourself of blame? All of it, even if you only hired the guy who hired the guy who **** it all up. Randy Lerner is 100% to blame for our current predicament. I imagine he'd admit that too. I'm not a small business owner fwiw. I suppose your point has mileage and as an owner of a business I'd expect randy to dispose of Arseholes who bleed it dry - players for example. Football is difficult to do that given contracts but I suppose randy is allowing players to take the piss. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Just now, Zatman said: we could also be 14 points as well Either way the outlooks pretty glum, for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 On 12/31/2015 at 19:06, Zatman said: He was so bad that compare to our last 3 managers opening 8 games in charge Garde Played 8 Won 0 Draws 4 Lost 4 Sherwood Played 8 Won 3 Draw 1 Lost 4 Lambert Played 8 Won 1 Drew 2 Lost 5 Sherwood is best manager we had since Houllier which is why he should have got more time Maybe Sherwood should have been given longer, what's done is done but we would have saved paying all that compensation for **** all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 1, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 1, 2016 Sherwood was given 10 games too long. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 4 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Sherwood was given 10 games too long. FWIW I dont think he would have done any worse than Garde in the last 8 games 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 1, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 1, 2016 Just now, KHV said: FWIW I dont think he would have done any worse than Garde in the last 8 games I do. And I think if we'd had Garde, or any other manager who was more effective than a chimp in a suit, since the start of the season we wouldn't be in this position. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 2 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: I do. And I think if we'd had Garde, or any other manager who was more effective than a chimp in a suit, since the start of the season we wouldn't be in this position. Another manager may be so, Garde on the other hand I'm not sure about at all. I have seen very little so far in Garde that suggests he is up to much at all. Some of the crap I have witnessed in the last 8 games is very much the same as what went on before. Everton and Norwich were arguably worse than what went before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 1, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 1, 2016 Just now, KHV said: Another manager may be so, Garde on the other hand I'm not sure about at all. I have seen very little so far in Garde that suggests he is up to much at all. Some of the crap I have witnessed in the last 8 games is very much the same as what went on before. Everton and Norwich were arguably worse than what went before. And West Ham was better than what went on before. It works both ways. Garde could end up being the worst manager of all time, it won't change the fact that Sherwood should not have been given more time. The man is a total joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Just now, Stevo985 said: And West Ham was better than what went on before. It works both ways. Garde could end up being the worst manager of all time, it won't change the fact that Sherwood should not have been given more time. The man is a total joke. Home game against Sunderland was just as good as West Ham, we should have have hammered them. We had over 20 efforts against Sunderland that day. As you say it works both ways 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 FWIW I dont think he would have done any worse than Garde in the last 8 games I do. And I think if we'd had Garde, or any other manager who was more effective than a chimp in a suit, since the start of the season we wouldn't be in this position. It's just possible that Garde would have gone for the draw against Bournemouth (the "balanced approach" of which he speaks) so we'd be on 6 points, not 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 This time tomorrow we could be just eight points from the safety zone. Can't think why but that doesn't really fill me with joy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dounavilla Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Agreed it's like in 24 hours It will be a day less of my life left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Many of us agree on here that the decline of our team has been gradual for years and certain milestones like the summer have accelerated it. so why are we still bitching about Sherwood and Garde when both was/is at the club too short a time to make a real/fair judgement. it is coming across as sheer point scoring. Sherwood has gone rightly/wrongly, Remi is the man lets get on with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YLN Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 (edited) Our best chance, as far as I see it, is if four teams get cut off from the rest of the league, and we somehow manage to be the fourth worst of them and end up staying up on 31 points. Pretty improbable, but I really can't see us getting to around the 40 points mark. Edited January 1, 2016 by YLN 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 We are not staying up. We would need to reel together 3 or 4 wins at some point and it's beyond this team to do that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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