Ikantcpell Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Wonder where Grealish will go when/if we go downSmall heath, if they go up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 I remember reading Sherwood's comments on the OS the day after the Notts County cup game. He said that he wouldn't want to be playing a team that consisted of Traore, Gil, Grealish and Veretout in a league game because it left us too open in that cup game.Could you imagine Wenger saying the same about Ozil, Sanchez, Ramsey and Cazorla? Or, Mourinho about Willian, Hazard, Oscar and Ramires? I think that he needs to be ballsy and play to our strengths, which isn't being defensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 He is right though, we would be wiped away playing them 4 and would only get away with it if Sanchez and Gana held midfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 It left us open against Notts County because he went for a naively stupid line up with only one recognised central-midfielder. I don't see why those players couldn't work together in a 4-2-3-1 or something. Not against all opponents but some home games at least. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 It left us open against Notts County because he went for a naively stupid line up with only one recognised central-midfielder. I don't see why those players couldn't work together in a 4-2-3-1 or something. Not against all opponents but some home games at least.That game was hilarious, he played Gil, Traore, Grealish, Sinclair and Ayew, left Veretout completely on his own, then even better he decided to play Sanchez and Baker as CB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 I remember reading Sherwood's comments on the OS the day after the Notts County cup game. He said that he wouldn't want to be playing a team that consisted of Traore, Gil, Grealish and Veretout in a league game because it left us too open in that cup game.Could you imagine Wenger saying the same about Ozil, Sanchez, Ramsey and Cazorla? Or, Mourinho about Willian, Hazard, Oscar and Ramires? I think that he needs to be ballsy and play to our strengths, which isn't being defensive. You are not comparing apples with apples here. Sanchez is an athletic beast and offers a huge amount in terms of press as well as attacking play. Ramsey is a true all rounder, Cazorla works very hard and has a lot of experience at the very highest level which means he has the discipline and tactical awareness to make his "deeper" role work. Ozil granted is a luxury player. But to compare Traore (very inexperienced and raw), Grealish (inexperienced not the greatest contributor defensively) Gil (energetic, willing but ultimaltely miniature) to those 4 Arsenal players is very unfair. Equally Willian, Hazard, Oscar and Ramiers are all incredibly athletic players with years of experience at playing at a very high level.FWIW I dont think he wouldnt play those four together just that if he did he would want a Gana, Sanchez or Westwood in there with them rather than Sinclair as he did that day. If we ever play that same formation in the Premier League it will be a very heavy defeat. I know he wants to try every formation/selection once to find the right one but hopefully that will take a while to come back round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Last year I accepted relegation when we lost to Hull. Then lambert was sacked and in my mind it was a 50-50 chance that we would stay up. We did, just about. Now I think we will go down this season as I think sherwood will have done too much damage by the time he is finally sacked. The only chance is that he is so bad he could get sacked soon and leave time for a good manager to clean up the mess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 I wonder for how much longer we are going to sleepwalk towards relegation with Sherwood as manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneNightInRotterdam Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Now I think we will go down this season as I think sherwood will have done too much damage by the time he is finally sacked. The only chance is that he is so bad he could get sacked soon and leave time for a good manager to clean up the mess. I reckon it's a dire situation if we gain no points by the City/Everton Game. Either we need some points and marked improvement to avoid being rooted to 20th or we get rid fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Newcastle-Sunderland play each other in two weeks so if we get nothing in Chelsea and Swansea games which looks pretty likely then the winner of that match will go above us. Indeed Newcastle could well get something at home to Norwich and Sunderland can get new manager bounce so we could very easily be bottom in two weeks.If Sherwood dosen't get sacked when that happens then we don't care about our premier league status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Villaglint I am not saying that our four are equal to Arsenal's or Chelsea's. They are in no way comparable. I'm saying that we should play them because they are as important to our team as the other four's are to their teams. Also, it's a different level of expectation anyway. The other two sets of four players are competing for top honours. Our four should be good enough to keep us in the league which, according to our manager, was all this season is supposed to be about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted October 8, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted October 8, 2015 (edited) Why is this guy such a big deal? Can someone enlighten me? Is he the Mail's official Villa blogger, whatever that means?Aston Villa blog: We're no longer a big club - big clubs aren’t involved in relegation battles every year Edited October 8, 2015 by Plastic Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Why is this guy such a big deal? Can someone enlighten me? Is he the Mail's official Villa blogger, whatever that means?Aston Villa blog: We're no longer a big club - big clubs aren’t involved in relegation battles every year Aston Villa are a big club. We just have a disinterested owner and have produced very poor teams over the last 5 yrs. There's a difference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 That's silly logic really. Whether or not you're a big club isn't defined by how well you've performed over the last few years. That said, in practical terms being a big club means very little. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted October 9, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted October 9, 2015 That's silly logic really. Whether or not you're a big club isn't defined by how well you've performed over the last few years. That said, in practical terms being a big club means very little.Have you seen this blogger before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gompedyret Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I don't see the point in shouting at some blogger for raising an opinion or debating wether he's right or not.It's all relative. Villa is big compared to Doncaster but, alas, as thing are we really don't matter. We're also-rans. That's the problem with Villa. It does hurt, and you may disagree with the wording of the blogger, but he still has valid points.I'd really like this club to still matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 With Allardyce going to Sunderland he will keep them up.Which means we are in trouble. Big trouble. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 With Allardyce going to Sunderland he will keep them up.Which means we are in trouble. Big trouble. we were in trouble anyway, we were going down whoever Sunderland appointed tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted October 9, 2015 Moderator Share Posted October 9, 2015 With Allardyce now taken, I'm considerably more worried about our prospects than I was. Now the obvious saviour is gone even if we do pull the trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Their defence is old and awful. He'll do well to keep them up.I don't think it effects us too much. I think we are going down regardless of what they get up to. We may finish 19th instead of 18th, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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