Zatman Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 This is in affect a 3 year loan isn't it? No. I kind of is if they decide to by him back. Not that I'm bothered. This is a team that decided it didn't need Sanchez, Pedro or fabregas in the last few years. No disrespect to Traore because I think he's going to be amazing, but I can't see him returning to Barcelona. No but they can buy him back for 11 million just to sell him for 30 million year after to say man city Just can't see them doing that. Has any club done that? Real Madrid did it with Negredo few years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daweii Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 The most important thing is Sherwood has set up a dialogue with Barcelona. I mean yeah we want Adama to stay with us for as long as possible, but if Barcelona do want him back because he's improved tenfold then what's to say we can't get more deals like this. It seems like a win/win situation. Yes we have to pay upfront for the player that may not be Barcelona standard yet, but if he is we get our money back while benefiting from them for a couple seasons. If he isn't Barca standard then he's still likely better than any other player at our club so we got a player not quite Barcelona standard for a cut down price. It wouldn't surprise me if Sherwood does more things like this in the future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwpzxjor1 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I agree but I think people have to realise that because they're at Barcelona doesn't mean they're Barcelona quality. Their academy is good, and they can cherry pick from the majority of clubs, but they still take on a lot of young prospects and a lot simply don't make it. Whilst I'm not playing Adama down, I know he was highly thought of there, we do need to be a little careful of always thinking that Barcelona squad player = world class. Just because their team is impossible to get into isn't a reason to immediately assume they'd get into any other team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted August 20, 2015 Moderator Share Posted August 20, 2015 I'd be confident that Tim was more than a little careful. Certainly the guy's physique suggests that he'd be at least able to mix it in the Prem. You're right that Barca doesn't automatically equal success, but it's not a bad starting point either. Let's judge him on his own merits. I just think people need to stop thinking that Barca buying him back means putting him in their team. It doesn't. At worst (for us) it means them making a quick twist on a cheap purchase. But let's enjoy it for now, eh? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwpzxjor1 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 As has been said before though, to make a profit he'd have to have seriously raised his value which means he'd have been fantastic for us. They'd have to have a buyer lined up, pay agent fees and other transfers shizzle, pay his wages for a little while, then more agent fees for a seperate transfer. In all this the player would have to be happy being carted around for Barcelona to make a quick profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Would anyone out there who has an issue with this, have loved it if we put one of these clause thingys into Cahills transfer to Bolton? Maybe we should be wondering why our great club hasnt been operating like the big clubs rather than bitching about them holding all the power in the Champions League era. Does anyone actually know what the proposed future buy back fee is? or whether it's ratcheted down as the years of his contract tick by? Also, hasn't Gil also got something similar in his contract and why isn't that seen as a problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberman Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Shall we let him play a game for us before we worry too much about him leaving? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Shall we let him play a game for us before we worry too much about him leaving? dunno rubberman, sounds like a slippery slope towards being happy about signing a millionty pounds wonderkid off of Barca to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted August 20, 2015 Moderator Share Posted August 20, 2015 Shall we let him play a game for us before we worry too much about him leaving? dunno rubberman, sounds like a slippery slope towards being happy about signing a millionty pounds wonderkid off of Barca to me. Yup. Too risky. I think we should keep him but NOT play him. That way they don't buy him back #2clever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 (edited) Shall we let him play a game for us before we worry too much about him leaving? dunno rubberman, sounds like a slippery slope towards being happy about signing a millionty pounds wonderkid off of Barca to me. Yup. Too risky. I think we should keep him but NOT play him. That way they don't buy him back #2clever I tell ya, we won't need to do that. Just play him to kill teams and then, as soon as Barca start sniffing, get Clark to break one of his legs in training. He's then out until the 3 year buy-back is exhausted and then he comes back to terrorise again. NOTE TO CLARK: Only a slight break is required, not a career ender! Edited August 20, 2015 by villarocker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberman Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Shall we let him play a game for us before we worry too much about him leaving? dunno rubberman, sounds like a slippery slope towards being happy about signing a millionty pounds wonderkid off of Barca to me. Yup. Too risky. I think we should keep him but NOT play him. That way they don't buy him back #2clever Good plan. Seeing how good Gil has become since he hasn't been playing, Adama will be on another planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 (edited) I think we might have stumbled onto the answer to the Gil conspiracy theory here Edited August 20, 2015 by VILLAMARV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Barca won't buy him back just to sell him on for a profit, purely because I doubt Traore would want to do it. People saying it's just a loan are wrong, as he isn't a Barcelona employee and he would only agree to go back if he was going to play regularly, in which case he'd have been outstanding for us. Going back to Barca to get sold on would deny him the chance of perhaps going to Real or another of their rivals, whereas if he stayed here he could have the pick of any club in Europe if he really turned out that good. Barca don't exactly need the money anyway, they seem to be able to afford to buy anyone on the planet without falling foul of FFP. Don't panic, he is ours and he will be ours for quite a while, just enjoy it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Have Barcelona ever bought back a player to then simply sell on again at a profit? I suspect it would be hugely frowned upon. And a player with integrity would refuse any such arrangement. It would be bad business for Barcelona, they want to attract the best players in the world to their academy. If they mess them around by selling, buying back and then selling again, I suspect it would harm their good reputation of nurturing talent and looking after their young players. Personally, I'm not worried. I find the whole scenario unlikely, Barca have enough money to simply buy whoever they want anyway. It would be a dirty trick. The only way I see him going back is if he becomes as good as Neymar or Surarez. If that happens then we will have hugely benefited from his services. Until then, let's worry about his fitness and whether he would beat Gabby in an egg and spoon race. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Spanish clubs in loads of debt + FFP making everyone need to improve their income streams = get used to this sort of shizzle imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 So is it still almost like a 3 year loan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Maybe they won't buy him back. Maybe they will want a deal on Gil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Shall we let him play a game for us before we worry too much about him leaving? No because it is obvious that Barca will recall him at half time in his first match. (And sell him to Chelsea for £45m). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete101 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 so much talk of the buy back clause in this thread, nearly identical deal to what we made for gil and nobody bats an eyelid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Tim says he's way off fitness atm (similar words to Gestede) so sub appearance at best this weekend for all those putting him straight in the starting 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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