mwj Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 He really can pick a pass & deliver a cross which is plain to see in that video. His general game needs more improvement though. Keep IMO but hopefully RDM & Clarke can help him kick on. @GENTLEMAN do those videos always need the 60 seconds of nothing at the start? Its a pet hate of my with youtube montages... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 On 21/06/2016 at 03:55, LockStockVilla said: Yes. If we were to pull off the tough task of coming straight back up, we would then need players ready to play at that level. If Veretout can get playing time at the PL level on loan with Bournemouth. Whilst you may not agree, which is fair enough, players can definitely develop at the highest level with proper coaching and a stable environment. ...but I want us to concentrate on getting back up, and if we can, I want Veretout to be a part of that. Loaning out players is bad news, they quickly became the scapegoat, they are usually dropped and discarded. The club isn't invested in their future or developing them. I want Veretout back firing next season, 46 games will do him the world of good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straggler Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 1 hour ago, GENTLEMAN said: Do not judge him solely on that video - a lot of footage has been omitted (dribbles, opportunities that he creates with passes, defensive skills, shots, passes etc). JV, like the other midfielders, are let down by poor finishing - sometimes by their own inability to finish. I'm not judging him solely on the video, I have been to enough games to feel I have a comfortable handle on what he has done over the season. The clips more brought home to me that our midfield has lacked a driving presence since Delph left. I really want him to succeed however I'm not sure what he brings to the team in solid technique, the ability to pass forward and indeed hit a dead ball makes up for the lack of pace, strength and dynamism. It has bothered me for a long time that our midfield seems to just not be there, either supporting the attack or helping out the defense and it doesn't improve much either way with JV in the team. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 The last time our midfield was decent (ish) was down to the sheer hard graft of Delph and Cleverly, both worked hard and chased down everything, even if you don't think ether player has much else to their game. In part they had to do this because our defence was so awful and then we lost them and the defence got worse. Gana played that dynamic defensive role at times, but often went missing or didn't know where on the pitch he should be, also there was no attacking relief to take the pressure off defence and midfield. I think a better defence and a harder working midfield would allow someone like Veretout to thrive. But i am pretty sure he'll go back to France anyhow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 5 hours ago, GENTLEMAN said: Jordan Veretout - The shite playmaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted July 10, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted July 10, 2016 Did he play in the game yesterday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginko Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 According to the club's Twitter account he was in the first-half team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted July 10, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted July 10, 2016 Ah cool. Cheers! Hope he's training hard and is ready to go. Think he could be a big player for us this season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Thomas Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 (edited) 6 minutes ago, PieFacE said: Did he play in the game yesterday? Gregg's verdict in the B'ham mail Link "JORDAN VERETOUT – Found lots of space to play in as GAK couldn’t live with Villa’s superior fitness. Kept feeding the flanks, where Villa did most damage." Edited July 10, 2016 by Gary Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 26 minutes ago, Gary Thomas said: Gregg's verdict in the B'ham mail Link "JORDAN VERETOUT – Found lots of space to play in as GAK couldn’t live with Villa’s superior fitness. Kept feeding the flanks, where Villa did most damage." Ha ha ha ha ha ! Either they have a team of Ollie Hardys or our new coaching staff are having very quick results ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 As for Mange-tout, he is another of the 'he might be better than we've seen' categories - someone made the point a Page or so back about the difference some movement in front of him might make. It is a fair point that we gave a whole new meaning to the word 'static' last year. However, so is the observation that he did very little in terms of forward running himself either. So, altogether that pretty much makes him largely the same as any other midfielder last season ! Have to wonder whether they are all really that poor or maybe just the rot had got to them collectively. I do think in his case that could be so. I'd be happy enough to see him stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 10, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted July 10, 2016 6 minutes ago, terrytini said: Ha ha ha ha ha ! Either they have a team of Ollie Hardys or our new coaching staff are having very quick results ! They're an amateur team in the Austrian 6th tier... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Just now, Stevo985 said: They're an amateur team in the Austrian 6th tier... And...? Just joshing....the very phrase "Villas superior fitness" just felt right up there with "Terrytinis new missus Liz Hurley..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 About to be loaned out to Marseilles apparently. Good move, IMO. He's not a bad player and don't want to get rid of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 (edited) Meh, contributed absolutely nothing, French league is about his level, may as well sell him. Yet another one you can mark down as a total waste of money. Edited July 17, 2016 by Dr_Pangloss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 we are Marseille feeder club at moment, surely they be favourites to go down in Ligue 1 if keep signing our crap 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay.P.A Posted July 17, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2016 I'm a big fan of Veretout, just purely based on the fact he is ridiculously comfortable on the ball, and is probably the best set piece taker at the club since Young. Last season,despite us being shite, he still got a good amount of assists, and could've had much more if it wasn't for bad finishing on our part. He's a big talent, just had a kid last year as well and moved to a country where he didn't know the language. I'm willing to cut the guy some slack and hopefully last season was a learning curve for him. If he stays he could be one of our best players this coming season. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 1 hour ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Meh, contributed absolutely nothing, French league is about his level, may as well sell him. Yet another one you can mark down as a total waste of money. Surely the French league is better than the Championship? If that's his level we'd be better off keeping him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 (edited) On Wednesday, June 22, 2016 at 15:17, KHV said: Jordan Veretout - The shite playmaker That's the worst highlight video I've ever seen. He's so good that for the first minute they showed him kicking a ball once. Then a 30 second corner montage followed by a French flag in the crowd. Don't these things usually show off a players quality. Edited July 17, 2016 by DCJonah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 1 hour ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Meh, contributed absolutely nothing, French league is about his level, may as well sell him. Yet another one you can mark down as a total waste of money. He contributed more than most. I can only assume you want to sell the entire squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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