Shaw_nuff Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 2 hours ago, West said: I knew nothing about this player when he signed. But one comment on here stuck out, something along the lines of 'This lad is going to fetch a club record fee when he is sold.' I won't embarrass that particular poster by naming him but as of now Veretout is really struggling. What's the lowest fee we've ever got? That poster could still be right. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Poor man's ashley westwood. I'm being kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 10 hours ago, Shaw_nuff said: What's the lowest fee we've ever got? That poster could still be right. Another quote I remember was he could be the best central midfielder we've had in last 30 years...... Not sure who said that.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 (edited) A lot of people have been unfair to Westwood in this thread and else where. I just don't see how anyone can big up Veretout and simultaneously put Westwood down. They appear to be quite similar, only subtle differences exist between the two of them, and so far Veretout has (a) not shown he can do anything better than Westwood and (b) has not really played better than Westwood in any of his appearances for us. This guy has a very long way to go. His conditioning looks dramatically short of what's required for this league, he's slow and very weak on the ball. He also gives the ball away far too often. Edited November 22, 2015 by Dr_Pangloss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 4 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Another quote I remember was he could be the best central midfielder we've had in last 30 years...... Not sure who said that.... I've read worse in the westwood thread. At least Veretout hasNt got too many players to be better than to achieve that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 On 8 November 2015 15:04:17, rodders0223 said: No. Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Out of all signings he has disappointed me the most Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Just remembered he turned down Leicester for us bet he's absolutely gutted. Really like him and I think he'll get better and better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 9 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: Really like him and I think he'll get better and better. Well he can't get any bloody worse? What is it you really like about him. I notice that in the news he's said he's been happy with his performances. Well if your happy jordan then good for you, but can you please resign instantly as I don't want players who are happy to be absolutely shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsmithusa Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Westwood has had plenty of time to develop in this league, Veretout has not. To me, Veretout shows effort and intelligence, what he lacks is quickness of thought and feet. Some develop it when challenged at the higher speed of play. Some don't. Time will tell but if I were a betting man I'd put money on Veretout. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 think people are being harsh on him. He was beyond terrible in that first half. Second half he was played further forward and started pressing alot better. As did the whole side. Unfortunately yet again.. i think our managers tactics have let us down this season. It was very Sherwoodesque. We dont have the players to sit back... against anyone. Just play football. Its not hard. We have players who are good on the ball.. why sit back and just have Clark and Richards hoof it forward and not have an outlet like Gestede. First half was a shambles.. and i think the blame must fall on the manager. Veretout will be a great player for us. I am still sure of it. He has the attributes. Just needs time.. something Westwood has had enough of. Keep with it Remi. Play the same side as Man City against Watford barring Amavi. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 8 hours ago, Woodytom said: Well he can't get any bloody worse? What is it you really like about him. I notice that in the news he's said he's been happy with his performances. Well if your happy jordan then good for you, but can you please resign instantly as I don't want players who are happy to be absolutely shite. Good touch, two good feet, got a trick on him to get out of tight spaces. Good footballer, who will improve and have a very good top-flight career. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 On 11/22/2015, 10:22:49, VillaChris said: Another quote I remember was he could be the best central midfielder we've had in last 30 years...... Not sure who said that.... If there's one thing you can rely on it's that in the face of adversity Villa fans will turn on eachother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Give him more than a few months eh lads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) 16 minutes ago, omariqy said: Give him more than a few months eh lads. But we don't really have a few months to spare for these players to start performing, do we? This is precisely the problem with our transfer policy, most of our signings are a work in progress, was the club really so naive to think we could get by whilst most of our signings got up to speed with things? Edited November 23, 2015 by Dr_Pangloss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 20 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: But we don't really have a few months to spare for these players to start performing, do we? This is precisely the problem with our transfer policy, most of our signings are a work in progress, was the club really so naive to think we could get by whilst most of our signings got up to speed with things? I don't disagree. That's not the players fault though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted November 24, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted November 24, 2015 14 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said: But we don't really have a few months to spare for these players to start performing, do we? This is precisely the problem with our transfer policy, most of our signings are a work in progress, was the club really so naive to think we could get by whilst most of our signings got up to speed with things? I honestly think the club thought "A good preseason and an easy start should see them up to speed pretty quickly" - and I'm fine with that..... ... except it was Sherwood who oversaw that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Still young, still settling in, on his second manager this season, can't come close to writing him off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Lovely ball for the goal but did nothing positive from open play, should not be starting, this guy is not built for this league, too weak and gives the ball away too often. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 28, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted November 28, 2015 He doesn't offer anything. I want to see Gil tried in this position. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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