lapal_fan Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Yes, taking a respected colleague in - fairly sure he's been a "friend in the room" before. My main line of argument is that their most recent post (i.e the one that caused the issue to be raised) is dated 29th June, but whoever gave them the 'history' of posts has gone back to May 2014 - clearly these were not an issue at the time, as they were never raised (which in itself breaks the social media policy as it clearly states an employee must report anything they see) and they will have been seen by store managment as I had/have the Assistant Manager who is currently on maternity leave, both current team leaders and a team leader who has been on maternity since october on my friend list, yet none of those deemed things offensive enough to report. Also, whoever collated the posts has ignored the positive work-related posts and printed things off to suit their claim - so i will be using the words "agenda" and "victimised" I also intend on calling the current assistant manager as a witness (he my line manager before he was promoted) because unless he lies then he will attest to how stressful my role can be and that i had raised concerns about some things that have been ignored by management which has raised my stress, and i may also call one team leader so i can ask why my previous postings from May '14 onwards were never highlighted if they are such an issue now Snowy has nailed the take someone in stuff perfectly. So..... things to say/do. 1) Don't blame anyone else 2) Don't say "That one was tame - you should see what else I've said about the company on the internet" 3) Don't claim an agenda or victimisation you just look like a nutter. 4) Apologise. 5) Play up the stressful stuff. You were very busy. You were venting frustration. Out of work pressures (make some up if there are none) had an impact and clouded your judgement. 6) Highlight previous good character - quotes from appraisals or performance reviews will assist you here. 7) Plan what you're going to say and your "defence" in advance. Write it down. Don't walk in and wing it. 8) Wear a suit - look smart. 9) Just in case, take a suitcase full of semen and monkey shit, maybe a few children's paintings.. you just, never, know. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewieGriffin Posted July 22, 2015 Author Share Posted July 22, 2015 Pretty much did that - barring the monkey shit... Adjourned so the HR lady (who is fit) and the other store manager (who isn't) could deliberate and on our return they said they wanted more time. Not sure what to make of that. Guy i took in with me is confident though. Got an interview lined up for Wednesday for a job I applied for Monday evening, so worst case is hopefully covered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chrisp65 Posted July 22, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted July 22, 2015 What lessons about social media would you say you've taken from this, given that the HR lady is fit but the store manager is a minger? 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Sounds promising. Go for the interview. Get the job. Immediately resign regardless of the outcome - and hope the reference they give doesn't shaft you on the way out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 I told you to cry rape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meath_Villan Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 yeah wait until the moment they say your in the clear and BAM!!! hand in that notice and ask the hr one out for some post employment sex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewieGriffin Posted July 22, 2015 Author Share Posted July 22, 2015 Was sacked over the phone after 7 years which is a slap in the face, but there we are. Will probably appeal just to inconvenience them, but ultimately Im not going to get my job back. words removed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Get the other job but hang on for your unfair / constructive dismissal payment from your current job first Win win 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meath_Villan Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 you must one day ...but not until you have fully walked away ...post up that status update 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Can you tell us exactly what it was that you said now? Good luck with the job hunt, sure it won't take long to get back into work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 (edited) Was sacked over the phone after 7 years which is a slap in the face, but there we are.So you had a disciplinary hearing which was adjourned then reconvened just to tell you they wanted more time but really they wanted to wait until you'd got home so they could sack you over the 'phone?I'd be surprised if that were as per their procedures.It's not Morrisons that you work for is it? Sorry, used to work for.Also, I may have missed it but were you suspended on full pay? Edited July 22, 2015 by snowychap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 This whole trial stinks. Catch you off guard by saying its informal, then sacking you over the phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 I'm not a lawyer in any way, but that really doesn't sound like they can have followed internal procedures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewieGriffin Posted July 23, 2015 Author Share Posted July 23, 2015 (edited) you had a disciplinary hearing which was adjourned then reconvened just to tell you they wanted more time but really they wanted to wait until you'd got home so they could sack you over the 'phone? Pretty much, yeah It's not Morrisons that you work for is it? Sorry, used to work for. No. A high street opticians. Not the best known one. Also, I may have missed it but were you suspended on full pay? Yes Considering getting in touch with Citizens Advice, but im not sure there's any point Edited July 23, 2015 by StewieGriffin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 If you worked at Vision Express in Birmingham Bullring i dont blame you for vitriolic outbursts. The staff / customer service levels there are on par with Fabian Delph's morale fibre. (Dreadful). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Its rubbish in the end, admittedly we only have your side of the story, but it stinks like old cheese. If of course you posted on facebook my manager needs a good raping, then maybe it was gross misconduct, other wise it seems that either the express people, or the savers people are making this shit up as they go along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Considering getting in touch with Citizens Advice, but im not sure there's any pointYou may well have a bit of free time on your hands even if you get the new job so why not?You may as well - at least to check with someone there that they think they've followed all of the procedures properly.As Seat says, we've only got your side of the story (though that has had you appear to be pretty honest with accepting what you did was wrong and so on) but it would be surprising if yesterday's process was completely kosher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djdabush Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 I don't know about the company in question but most companies I've come across usually inform the outcome of hearings via letter. Gutted for you that it's turned out this way but I have a funny feeling you will look back at this as a blessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewieGriffin Posted July 23, 2015 Author Share Posted July 23, 2015 (edited) If you worked at Vision Express in Birmingham Bullring i dont blame you for vitriolic outbursts. The staff / customer service levels there are on par with Fabian Delph's morale fibre. (Dreadful). I have a tickle in my throat... Not sure if its wise to repeat the posts on here... Got a number for acas, so i'll call them once i've finished the list of chores Mrs Stewie has left me... Edited July 23, 2015 by StewieGriffin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Sounds like a stitch-up, I'd take it further just to inconvenience the bastards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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