Woodytom Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Awful. Not for the first time. Must have given it away 20 times. Needless as well. This belief that he's a decent player and has ever shown it, is one of the biggest villa myths I've ever known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LancsVillan Posted December 13, 2016 Moderator Share Posted December 13, 2016 29 minutes ago, poitier said: He did well defensively tonight, nothing going forward though. People don't realise - not saying you personally - how much Ayew helps in that aspect of our play. Kodjia tonight just didn't help enough and when JA did get forward Kodjia ignored him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 18 minutes ago, Woodytom said: Awful. Not for the first time. Must have given it away 20 times. Needless as well. This belief that he's a decent player and has ever shown it, is one of the biggest villa myths I've ever known. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 22 minutes ago, Woodytom said: Awful. Not for the first time. Must have given it away 20 times. Needless as well. This belief that he's a decent player and has ever shown it, is one of the biggest villa myths I've ever known. Who did you watch first half? He was rock solid for the first 45 minutes and nervy and beatable for the second 45. By "given it away" are you referring to the hacked clearances he made? If so, what would you have done in the same situations? Dribble your way out of the box? He had a Jekyll and Hyde game but wasn't the worst player by far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 4 minutes ago, villarocker said: Who did you watch first half? He was rock solid for the first 45 minutes and nervy and beatable for the second 45. By "given it away" are you referring to the hacked clearances he made? If so, what would you have done in the same situations? Dribble your way out of the box? He had a Jekyll and Hyde game but wasn't the worst player by far. I never said he was the worst. And no I'm not talking about the hacked clearances. He gave it away in silly positions too on Saturday. The first half wasn't as bad but it was still full of mistakes. He did well to save his own skin with a tackle when ball watching and out of position. His ridiculous decision making to try and dribble past 3 players on the half way led to the Howson shot I believe. He really isn't very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 WoodyTom, I never said that you said that he was the worst! He was probably our best player first half but struggled second half by trying to be too smart. He's a decent enough footballer and has a touch of class about him that sets him apart from most of our defenders, if not all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 1 minute ago, villarocker said: WoodyTom, I never said that you said that he was the worst! He was probably our best player first half but struggled second half by trying to be too smart. He's a decent enough footballer and has a touch of class about him that sets him apart from most of our defenders, if not all. We will have to disagree. For me Chester, despite being poor recently.... has a touch of class that none of our defenders have. Amavi is just naive if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Makes countless interceptions and always has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 6 hours ago, Woodytom said: Awful. Not for the first time. Must have given it away 20 times. Needless as well. This belief that he's a decent player and has ever shown it, is one of the biggest villa myths I've ever known. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 so awful that Marseille have apparently met with his agent twice with a view of signing him in Jan, but he is holding for a prem move so say the online dirt rags, but it wouldn't surprise me if true. do people want to go back to the headless penalty causing tank that is Cissokho? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 He said not long ago he wanted to stay didn't he? Would be gutted if he left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Better have some big money for him then. 17-18m if they want him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 He plays with a drive which I really like. He seems to be getting better slowly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: Better have some big money for him then. 17-18m if they want him Hard to see how his value has increase from when we signed him. He's pretty good, premier league standard, but not that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 4 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Hard to see how his value has increase from when we signed him. He's pretty good, premier league standard, but not that good. It's about his value to US and how much we would have to get an equal or better replacement. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 (edited) He's easily a premier league footballer in my opinion, at the beginning of last season, he was brilliant. He's probably not fully up to speed yet after the serious injury he had. He could be an outstanding footballer for us and France Edited December 15, 2016 by sir_gary_cahill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 5 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: He's easily a premier league footballer in my opinion, at the beginning of last season, he was brilliant. He's probably not fully up to speed yet after the serious injury he had. He could be an outstanding footballer for us and France He was flawed, you could see potential, but he made a few mistakes and was caught out a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 If we have to go back to Cissokho I will top myself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 5 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: He was flawed, you could see potential, but he made a few mistakes and was caught out a lot. Agreed but he's still young and learning I have a feeling that in 5 years or so, he'll be fantastic, hopefully at this football club 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 7 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: If we have to go back to Cissokho I will top myself. In my opinion, he's a more than good enough back up left back for where we are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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