praisedmambo Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 23 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Richards on a free who That's likplayed for City and Fiorentina was a coup for us at the time. Easy to say it was a terrible signing now. It wasnt at the time If the proof is in the pudding, what you've said is like saying the proof is in the mixing of the ingredients before you've cooked the pudding. If there are raw eggs in that pudding you could get sick. Basically, it was a mistake to buy him as a CB. We're a mess of a team with only the likes of Westwood, Hutton, Guzan, Lescott and now Cissokho having any experience in their positions in the Premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honest_bertie Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 5 hours ago, Demitri_C said: who else would have been a better cb signing on a free?? To be honest I don't know. But I prefer Vlaar as a CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted January 6, 2016 Author Share Posted January 6, 2016 1 minute ago, honest_bertie said: To be honest I don't know. But I prefer Vlaar as a CB. But he wanted to leave so that really isnt a option is it? I just dont believe people were saying he was that bad a signing on a free. I thought it was a coup of a signing at the time. Still think he is decent but he needs another leader CB next to him. Lescott and clark both are not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulver Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 2 hours ago, Demitri_C said: But he wanted to leave so that really isnt a option is it? I just dont believe people were saying he was that bad a signing on a free. I thought it was a coup of a signing at the time. Still think he is decent but he needs another leader CB next to him. Lescott and clark both are not Yet both are easily as good as Richards at CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 2 hours ago, Demitri_C said: But he wanted to leave so that really isnt a option is it? I just dont believe people were saying he was that bad a signing on a free. I thought it was a coup of a signing at the time. Still think he is decent but he needs another leader CB next to him. Lescott and clark both are not i thi nk any ability he has is vastly outweighed by a shite attitude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honest_bertie Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, Demitri_C said: But he wanted to leave so that really isnt a option is it? I just dont believe people were saying he was that bad a signing on a free. I thought it was a coup of a signing at the time. Still think he is decent but he needs another leader CB next to him. Lescott and clark both are not Did Vlaar want to leave or did villa decide not to renew his contract, I don't know so will take your word for it. I just never felt comfortable with Richards coming here to be a cb. He declared before signing that's his position and I think his stubbornness to be a cb is damaging to the team. Never thought he'd make a good captain either. As much as people here slag of vlaar he always seemed a passionate yet respectful captain that took his responsobilitily seriously. Micah seems like he's main passion is defeding himself on Twitter and in the papers. I hoped he would prove me wrong but I never thought he'd cut it as a captain and so far think that's the case. If he acknowledged his shortcomings as a CB to date and declared he was happy to play RB that would to me show more leadership skills and that he cares about Villa as much as himself. Edited January 6, 2016 by honest_bertie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New_Jersey_Villa Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 2 minutes ago, honest_bertie said: Did Vlaar want to leave or did villa decide not to renew his contract, I don't know so will take your word for it. I just never felt comfortable with Richards coming here to be a cb. He declared before signing that's his position and I think his stubbornness to be a cb is damaging to the team. Never thought he'd make a good captain either. As much as people here slag of vlaar he always seemed a passionate yet respectful captain that took his responsobilitily seriously. Micah seems like he's main passion is defeding himself on Twitter and in the papers. I hoped he would prove me wrong but I never thought he'd cut it as a captain and so far think that's the case. If he acknowledged his shortcomings as a CB to date and declared he was happy to play RB that would to me show more leadership skills and that he cares about Villa as much as himself. I think Vlaar got offered a new contract, but declined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honest_bertie Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 2 minutes ago, New_Jersey_Villa said: I think Vlaar got offered a new contract, but declined. Fairs dues, genuinely wasn't sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Vlaar was shit. Richards is shit. What shit would you rather have? Shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Where does this view that Richards has a shit attitude come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 24 minutes ago, Xela said: Where does this view that Richards has a shit attitude come from? im sure somebody mentioned he had a bad attitude because he celebrated like crazy for his goal so its prob just another stick to beat him with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 18 hours ago, Nabby said: Of course Sherwood is the one who brought him in , I just mean is another in a line of dumb transfers over the last decade or so I was really just pointing out that Lerner is at fault for much more important, and much more damaging, things at our club than for any particular transfer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I thought that he started off superbly but his performance levels have plummeted in recent weeks, he needs to find a level of consistency again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREAT_BEARD_OF_ZEUS Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Richards is a prime example of what has been a massive oversight in Villa's transfer policy in recent times and that's a complete lack of character profiling. As a result we've ended up with a squad of players with huge personality defects (in a footballing sense). We have a team lacking in maturity, confidence, spirit, respect, work ethic... the list goes on. I know not every player has all of these characteristics, but you have to try and get a blend of guys together who have enough of them to carry the ones that don't. A good example of a team that does this well is the New England Patriots in the NFL (I know its not football but bear with me because the point still stands). They built a core of players who were so strong in that respect that they could regularly take risks on troublesome or problem players who other teams wouldn't take the risk with - what happened was that if these volatile guys played up, the senior core of the team would put them in their place or at worst not allow them to disrupt the mood of the team. Richards is a loud guy who plays the joker a lot (see the Christmas secret santa video as an example). He's come into our squad of quiet, shy, impressionable players and all of a sudden he's made himself the alpha male. Now that in itself is fine, we do need that type of character, but sadly he's shown himself to be quite immature at the same time. His reaction to Ian Wright on twitter the other weekend was embarrassing and if rumours of him taking the piss out of the new manager by doing impressions of him are true then that's even worse. In nearly all other teams there'd have been senior players who'd have had a word by now, told him to knuckle down rather than lash out on social media, show respect rather than play the clown, perhaps even told him to wise up and stop being so stubborn with regards to his demand to play at CB who knows! I have no doubt that Remi Garde has pointed out the flaws in his game and spoken to him about his lack of positional awareness, but he's like a cocky kid at school who thinks he doesn't have to listen to the teacher. Now there's a fair few assumptions in all that, but I'd bet good money that it's not far off the mark. But despite all that and regardless of how bad he's looked recently, Richards is a good player in the right team/squad... just not in this one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bose Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 26 minutes ago, GREAT_BEARD_OF_ZEUS said: if rumours of him taking the piss out of the new manager by doing impressions of him are true then that's even worse. That is pathetic if true. Way to increase squad morale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Those 'rumours' sound like complete horseshit, but they've done their job anyway, they now seem to be received wisdom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMcKenna Posted January 7, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 7, 2016 Initially I thought he could be good for us but am no longer convinced Richards has what it takes. He seems to lack the ability to dominate and the awareness that the likes of Vlaar, Laursen and other CBs had in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Where does this view that Richards has a shit attitude come from? He tweeted MOTD saying some of the criticism was harsh. And... A post match interview, where he looked gutted that we lost and harshly criticised the team for not doing enough. He was emotional, seemed passionate, but you could have read his words as criticism of his team mates. Really, there is no evidence that his attitude to his profession is bad. I think he is hurting because he's never played in such a poor team or played so badly himself. He's made some ill advised comments I think he felt he needed to make as captain. Not hugely controversial in opinion, I think it's slightly unfair, especially the abuse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 7, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 7, 2016 9 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: Those 'rumours' sound like complete horseshit, but they've done their job anyway, they now seem to be received wisdom. This. Totally made up. I might tweet something about N'Zogbia enjoying eating babies' brains and see if it gets taken as gospel anything put on Twitter seems to be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 N'Zogbia's reputation couldn't be worse at Villa, there's nothing you could really say to make people want him out more than they already do! As for the 'impressions' - the problem there is that it's totally believable that a chavvy idiot footballer like Richards (or Gabby or a number of others in the squad) would do something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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