PaulC Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 (edited) 1 hour ago, bickster said: In this instance there is no checking because it’s already being done. Is person in receipt of pension credit? If so pass go and collect £300 For most pensioners its go and collect £200. Only over 80s get £300. Yes I agree this way Is the simplest and easiest way to save money. Edited September 3 by PaulC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Strange dynamic in PMQs today with the party in power trying to tell us how terrible everything is and the opposition telling us how great everything is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 9 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: Strange dynamic in PMQs today with the party in power trying to tell us how terrible everything is and the opposition telling us how great everything is. I wonder if Labour had said the economy was looking good, inflation was down and the good times were on their way the opposition would have instinctively argued against that position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: Strange dynamic in PMQs today with the party in power trying to tell us how terrible everything is and the opposition telling us how great everything is. Yes bit ironic that Sunak asking why Starmer is giving train drivers a 10k pay rise while poor pensioners are having their winter fuel payments stopped. Edited September 4 by PaulC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Starmer does at least appear to answer the questions. Not sure how long that will last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakotaDakota Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Starmer could probably start by remembering he is pm, called Sunak Prime minister 5 times today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 26 minutes ago, LakotaDakota said: Starmer could probably start by remembering he is pm, called Sunak Prime minister 5 times today. Maybe its a job share and they haven't got round to telling us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: Starmer does at least appear to answer the questions. Not sure how long that will last. He failed to answer the first lot of questions. Just blamed it on the black hole but he did answer it later on to be fair. Don't know if the rumours are true that Labour are going to abolish the single occupancy discount of 25% off council tax. If they do that then that would be very unpopular. Edited September 4 by PaulC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 33 minutes ago, PaulC said: He failed to answer the first lot of questions. Just blamed it on the black hole but he did answer it later on to be fair. Don't know if the rumours are true that Labour are going to abolish the single occupancy discount of 25% off council tax. If they do that then that would be very unpopular. I'm told that Birmingham council did their best to discourage people from confirming their single occupancy status, by not allowing postal application/confirmation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 4 Moderator Share Posted September 4 48 minutes ago, PaulC said: Don't know if the rumours are true that Labour are going to abolish the single occupancy discount of 25% off council tax. If they do that then that would be very unpopular. Not sure why they'd do that given that they control most of the councils where there's be single occupant dwellings Sure the council would benefit but the Labour Party would be hated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 (edited) 21 minutes ago, bickster said: Not sure why they'd do that given that they control most of the councils where there's be single occupant dwellings Sure the council would benefit but the Labour Party would be hated. It's been going around because Angela Rayner refused to rule it out. I wouldn't have thought if wouid hsppen but with such a massive majority they can afford to do some horrible things in the beginning of their term and then more popular vote winning things later on. Edited September 4 by PaulC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 Listening to another MP who has no real idea what to do with the asylum system apart from getting the NCA involved, who don't wanna know. Hearing the illegal immigrants are being put in hotels why awaiting deportation was reassuring?? I wonder what happens to these people, I don't think they wait around. Another car crash of a interview on gmb, where the politician couldn't, or wouldn't give any figures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted September 6 Administrator Share Posted September 6 1 hour ago, foreveryoung said: Listening to another MP who has no real idea what to do with the asylum system apart from getting the NCA involved, who don't wanna know. Hearing the illegal immigrants are being put in hotels why awaiting deportation was reassuring?? I wonder what happens to these people, I don't think they wait around. Another car crash of a interview on gmb, where the politician couldn't, or wouldn't give any figures. Which MP? Your only question isn't a question - even with two question marks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 6 Moderator Share Posted September 6 1 hour ago, foreveryoung said: Hearing the illegal immigrants are being put in hotels why awaiting deportation was reassuring People refused asylum and awaiting transfer to a safe country are not illegal immigrants. They've applied for asylum (legally) and been refused. They aren't even immigrants at that stage let alone illegal ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 My assumptions about the £22bn deficit proved way off but it seems that: The Bank Of England made a loss of £200bn on bonds issued in 2008 to deal with the financial collapse, and the treasury have agreed to pay £20bn a year to the BOE, every year until 2032. So it is a case of tax more or spend less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 2 hours ago, bickster said: People refused asylum and awaiting transfer to a safe country are not illegal immigrants. They've applied for asylum (legally) and been refused. They aren't even immigrants at that stage let alone illegal ones. Yawn, not this again? Crossing the channel in a dingy paying illegal gangs is illegal ro start. You can argue as much as you want they aren't illegals. They are! You also want to be asking yourself why they are being refused. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 6 Moderator Share Posted September 6 5 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Yawn, not this again? Exactly my reaction when I read your post 5 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Crossing the channel in a dingy paying illegal gangs is illegal ro start. You can argue as much as you want they aren't illegals. They are! You also want to be asking yourself why they are being refused. So these people in a hotel waiting to be deported came across the channel on a boat classified as small? Do you know the percentage of asylum seekers that get into the country that way? (Answer: it's miniscule) Here's another fact for you, 60% of people crossing the channel by small boat are actually genuine asylum seekers who are granted leave to stay. Why would I care why the 40% are refused? The refused get removed to a country of safety. But again it isn't illegal to apply for asylum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 (edited) 5 minutes ago, bickster said: Exactly my reaction when I read your post So these people in a hotel waiting to be deported came across the channel on a boat classified as small? Do you know the percentage of asylum seekers that get into the country that way? (Answer: it's miniscule) Here's another fact for you, 60% of people crossing the channel by small boat are actually genuine asylum seekers who are granted leave to stay. Why would I care why the 40% are refused? The refused get removed to a country of safety. But again it isn't illegal to apply for asylum If it is 40% the rate of appeals to those initially refused ultimately getting granted is around 50% too. So the real number of refused asylum seekers is around 20%. 80% are granted asylum. Edited September 6 by Rolta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 You guys make it sound like the perfect system. Apart from a bit of a back log, what we flapping about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted September 6 Administrator Share Posted September 6 26 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: You guys make it sound like the perfect system. Apart from a bit of a back log, what we flapping about? It seems that you are finally starting to get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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