sidcow Posted August 5 VT Supporter Share Posted August 5 6 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Yeah i was critical on cameron too at the time. So was you happy with camerons response at the time too then? I just think this was always going to happen. Its been building up for a while and these far right nut jobs were looking for any excuse to kick off Yes, I was happy with how quickly and decisively the 2011 riots were quashed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 5 Author Share Posted August 5 Just now, Stevo985 said: Please don’t call them protests. They’re racist riots. Labour have acted super quickly on this. I really don’t see how they could have acted much quicker. COBRA meetings aren’t just something you can do in an hour. But you won’t be convinced Spoken like a true labour supporter. If that was tories you would be criticising them as most labour supporters here. ill leave it there. As you wont be convinced either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 5 VT Supporter Share Posted August 5 Just now, Demitri_C said: He is going to have to come back at some point though or go somewhere else. They won't keep him there thats for sure. Why not? Cyprus is pretty much quasi owned by Russia. They'll keep him as long as they find him useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 5 Author Share Posted August 5 (edited) 2 minutes ago, bickster said: Why? It's chock full of Russians who they don't kick out and he's an EU citizen so can't Because the russians give money to cyprus, they and tourism is what makes cyprus make money. Without that we would be ****. Go and look how many developments they are buying up. Robinson wont do any of that - he will told to leave im sure of that. Its quite a left wing country Edited August 5 by Demitri_C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 1 minute ago, Demitri_C said: Because the russians give money to cyprus, they and tourism is what makes cyprus make money. Go and look how many developments they are buying up. Robinson wont do any of that - he will told to leave im sure of that. Its quite a left wing country How can they tell him to leave? He’s an EU citizen in an EU country who can legally stay as long as he likes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 14 minutes ago, sidcow said: In the 2011 riots Mark Duggan was killed 4th August. First riot occurred 6th August. Riots spread on 7th and 8th August. Cameron called a Cobra meeting on 9th August. Labour's timeline is almost exactly the same as Cameron. You can't just arrange these things at the drop of a hat. Especially as you wouldn't even do so until something highly serious has actually happened. He spoke to the senior police officers on Friday and authorised additional resources and special procedures. I really don't see how he could have acted quicker. Amusingly given the tories laying into Starmer despite him not going on holiday, Cameron stayed on holiday for a couple of days when the rioting broke out in 2011 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 5 Author Share Posted August 5 Just now, Genie said: How can they tell him to leave? He’s an EU citizen in an EU country who can legally stay as long as he likes. Does he have a british or irish passport? Its a EU passport then yes that would make it more complicated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 5 minutes ago, bickster said: Why? It's chock full of Russians who they don't kick out and he's an EU citizen so can't be ironic if he's living in the Northern part of Cyprus with all the Turkish Muslims 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 5 VT Supporter Share Posted August 5 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Spoken like a true labour supporter. If that was tories you would be criticising them as most labour supporters here. ill leave it there. As you wont be convinced either. If the Tories had done it I’d be pleasantly surprised. Given people like Johnson didn’t even bother attending COBRA meetings when the country was facing its worst crisis in decades, it would have been a remarkable turnaround. It would have been far more likely that prominent Tory members would have been stoking the fires themselves rather than coming down hard on the rioters, given it’s probably largely their voters participating. It’s actually quite embarrassing to try and bring a Tory comparison into a discussion about COBRA meetings PS I’m not a Labour supporter Edited August 5 by Stevo985 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 3 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Does he have a british or irish passport? Its a EU passport then yes that would make it more complicated He is travelling on an Irish EU passport. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 13 minutes ago, Genie said: The threat of the strongest possible punishments by the home secretary, it should do. What do you suggest they should have done instead? Stop the boats!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 It is amazing how quick the Tories have been to jump on Labour (who have been in power for 4 weeks) for something that the Tories spent 14 years creating the environment for. Next thing we'll have people rocking up to A&E and not being seen within an hour and calling for Starmers head. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 12 minutes ago, markavfc40 said: It is amazing how quick the Tories have been to jump on Labour (who have been in power for 4 weeks) for something that the Tories spent 14 years creating the environment for. Next thing we'll have people rocking up to A&E and not being seen within an hour and calling for Starmers head. Suella was critical of Labour for not reversing the 2 child benefit cap which she voted to implement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Thought Labour were going to cut waiting times ? Also Bangor> Barry . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one_ian_taylor Posted August 18 VT Supporter Share Posted August 18 8 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: Thought Labour were going to cut waiting times ? Also Bangor> Barry . Yes, I thought they would in six weeks too, and during the summer with unresolved union disputes. (I'm not saying they will necessarily, just that it may perhaps be a little too early to tell). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Colin79 Posted August 18 Popular Post Share Posted August 18 (edited) Just noticed that the 2 posts above are the first in this thread for 13 days. It’s nice to not have to discuss daily scandal/arrest/general throbbery in a politics thread. I guess like football referees you don’t notice the competent ones. Edited August 18 by Colin79 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 18 VT Supporter Share Posted August 18 2 hours ago, Colin79 said: Just noticed that the 2 posts above are the first in this thread for 13 days. It’s nice to not have to discuss daily scandal/arrest/general throbbery in a politics thread. I guess like football referees you don’t notice the competent ones. It's a bit strange because there have been a few uncomfortable moments with them, but as you say even their wobbles are barely noticeable/insignificant compared to crazy Tory stuff. I'm looking forward to Parliament reconvening in September to see what they get on with in the early days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 5 hours ago, Rugeley Villa said: Thought Labour were going to cut waiting times ? Also Bangor> Barry . Concussion? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 5 hours ago, Rugeley Villa said: Thought Labour were going to cut waiting times ? Also Bangor> Barry . That’s numberwang! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 20 hours ago, Colin79 said: Just noticed that the 2 posts above are the first in this thread for 13 days. It’s nice to not have to discuss daily scandal/arrest/general throbbery in a politics thread. I guess like football referees you don’t notice the competent ones. Yeah. They're doing exactly what it said on the tin. Tory-lite politics without the corruption and incompetence and scandals. It is what it is I guess. Better than went before it. But no groundbreaking stuff, and very little socialism. The 'establishment' will be happy with things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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