Genie Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 How refreshing to see us sending a proper politician to one of these overseas gatherings of major world leaders. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one_ian_taylor Posted July 10 VT Supporter Share Posted July 10 2 hours ago, blandy said: You completely ignore the other reasons... Daily Telegraph and Express articles. Thanks for nearly making me choke to death on my food Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted July 10 VT Supporter Share Posted July 10 Oh no. Starmer has caught the Sleepy Joe disease Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wainy316 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 Just realised my son has recently turned 2 and is on his 4th Prime Minister already. I was nearly 23 by the time I had my 4th. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 3 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: Just realised my son has recently turned 2 and is on his 4th Prime Minister already. I was nearly 23 by the time I had my 4th. Yup, my daughter's nine and has had six. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 (edited) On 09/07/2024 at 12:07, bobzy said: Obviously we'd need housing facilities for them, but that's tough on an asylum claim basis. I wonder if your stance was any different for those coming from Ukraine. Should they have come here to work? Actually, from my own personal experience integrating migrants from Ukraine is a hell of a lot easier than someone from the average despotic ME country. Firstly, Ukrainians mostly know English, they’re already fairly well educated and they want to work. That’s before we get into values, religion and views on genders, sexuality and such things. The issue isn’t migration from Europe, something the UK has profited from for decades. Edited July 11 by magnkarl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 Starmer not ruling out a bank holiday if England win on Sunday. Bad news for @bickster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 11 Moderator Share Posted July 11 2 minutes ago, Genie said: Starmer not ruling out a bank holiday if England win on Sunday. Bad news for @bickster Another reason I didn’t vote Labour. They are obsessed with public holidays 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted July 11 Moderator Share Posted July 11 36 minutes ago, magnkarl said: they want to work. That's quite the generalisation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 25 minutes ago, Genie said: Starmer not ruling out a bank holiday if England win on Sunday. Bad news for @bickster That would certainly endear him to many though. The Euros has fallen nicely for him! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 52 minutes ago, magnkarl said: Actually, from my own personal experience integrating migrants from Ukraine is a hell of a lot easier than someone from the average despotic ME country. Firstly, Ukrainians mostly know English, they’re already fairly well educated and they want to work. That’s before we get into values, religion and views on genders, sexuality and such things. The issue isn’t migration from Europe, something the UK has profited from for decades. There's some wild generalisations there - especially on the work point. You're implying that Ukrainian people want to work more so than others? Based on...? On the English part, I'm not actually sure that's true. The few Ukrainians that came and stayed with families in the area that I live in (and it's a small sample size) largely did not speak any English at all whereas, from my time working in the Home Office, people from Africa (in particular) spoken English pretty well. Also true of the few Syrian refugees that I encountered and I imagine people from Iran/Iraq/Afghanistan (which from memory represent the highest number of illegal immigrants by country) would largely have English as a second/taught language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 27 minutes ago, Genie said: Starmer not ruling out a bank holiday if England win on Sunday. Bad news for @bickster Lets face it, if England win on Sunday then productivity will be at a severe low on Monday anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 Ukranian people probably want to work more than me. Well can't be arsed today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 4 minutes ago, bobzy said: Lets face it, if England win on Sunday then productivity will be at a severe low on Monday anyway I doubt they could arrange it that quickly I assume it would be in a month or so time (I don’t think England will beat Spain anyway, even the luckiest man alive can’t fluke that…. can he?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 2 minutes ago, Genie said: (I don’t think England will beat Spain anyway, even the luckiest man alive can’t fluke that…. can he?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted July 11 VT Supporter Share Posted July 11 3 minutes ago, Genie said: (I don’t think England will beat Spain anyway, even the luckiest man alive can’t fluke that…. can he?) I'm not so sure anymore. I think the players are just basically ignoring him now and sorting it out between themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 I wonder how long Labour can blame everything being shite on the previous Tory government until people get fed up of it. I would say about 9 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 1 minute ago, The Fun Factory said: I wonder how long Labour can blame everything being shite on the previous Tory government until people get fed up of it. I would say about 9 months. Well the Tories got 9 years (based on election wins) of successful mileage out of doing it the other way round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 2 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: I wonder how long Labour can blame everything being shite on the previous Tory government until people get fed up of it. I would say about 9 months. C’mon, in the lead up to this election I heard Gordon Brown blamed for current levels of investment and selling gold off cheaply. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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