tonyh29 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Grey Suit with a yellow tie Corbyn out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Bring back the old PMQ where they hurled insults at each other zzzzzzzzz this naming the person whose questions followed by What I would say to Steven is rather cringe worthy and reminiscent of I met a black man once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I find myself largely agree with you Bickster. My worry with Cornyn is the naivety of some of his policies, and that he doesn't seem to understand, that you have to drop some of the unpopular/unrealistic ideology, if you actually want to make a real difference by getting the important changes made. You need to be in government.That's pretty much the view held by the Parliamentary Labour Party - and they're not wrong. For all the compromises Blair made to get power - He achieved more than those who just spout off left wing idealism.I think some members of the labour party are what I call political hobbyists - they actually prefer to be in opposition because they can spout off intellectual political theories - without ever having to put them into practice. We aren't suddenly going to go from Centre Right - to extreme left. (even if I do like some of those principles) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_c Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Watching PMQ's, the thing that needs changing is answering the actual question that's asked. And then being bought up on it when you don't. Personally, I'd only ask yes or no questions and be obstannent as f*ck about it, if they answer any other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 A Labour source has said that Mr Corbyn would be singing the national anthem at future ceremonial events. so much for the champion of principles , he appears to be U-turning quicker than a French tank driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 16, 2015 Moderator Share Posted September 16, 2015 I find myself largely agree with you Bickster. My worry with Cornyn is the naivety of some of his policies, and that he doesn't seem to understand, that you have to drop some of the unpopular/unrealistic ideology, if you actually want to make a real difference by getting the important changes made. You need to be in government.That's pretty much the view held by the Parliamentary Labour Party - and they're not wrong. For all the compromises Blair made to get power - He achieved more than those who just spout off left wing idealism.I think some members of the labour party are what I call political hobbyists - they actually prefer to be in opposition because they can spout off intellectual political theories - without ever having to put them into practice. We aren't suddenly going to go from Centre Right - to extreme left. (even if I do like some of those principles) What did Bliar actually achieve? I know he lobbed up some shit policies that are now being smashed back at us. He achieved very little of any worthHe achieved an almost completely unregulated financial sectorHe went to war illegallyPlease don't tell me about the minimum wage which was set so low as to be irrelevant. In fact its been used as a yard stick to keep wages down, even this bunch of Tories want to see it higher.I am curious as to what you think he achieved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 PMQ serves as a regular reminder that when it comes to democracy the electorate are fobbed off with a tawdry show of phoney theatrics, while the real politics happens secretly elsewhere. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 16, 2015 Moderator Share Posted September 16, 2015 I find myself largely agree with you Bickster. My worry with Cornyn is the naivety of some of his policies, and that he doesn't seem to understand, that you have to drop some of the unpopular/unrealistic ideology, if you actually want to make a real difference by getting the important changes made. You need to be in government.That's pretty much the view held by the Parliamentary Labour Party - and they're not wrong. Some of them might find themselves at the Job Centre come the next General Election. There's already talk of deselecting disloyal MP's, they should watch their backs a bit more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I find myself largely agree with you Bickster. My worry with Cornyn is the naivety of some of his policies, and that he doesn't seem to understand, that you have to drop some of the unpopular/unrealistic ideology, if you actually want to make a real difference by getting the important changes made. You need to be in government.That's pretty much the view held by the Parliamentary Labour Party - and they're not wrong. Some of them might find themselves at the Job Centre come the next General Election. There's already talk of deselecting disloyal MP's, they should watch their backs a bit moreThey should resign and stand as independent candidates, if they refuse to support their democratically elected leader. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted September 16, 2015 Moderator Share Posted September 16, 2015 Bring back the old PMQ where they hurled insults at each other zzzzzzzzz this naming the person whose questions followed by What I would say to Steven is rather cringe worthy and reminiscent of I met a black man once Or I once invented a fictional black man if I recall correctly in Cameron's case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 What did Bliar actually achieve? I know he lobbed up some shit policies that are now being smashed back at us. He achieved very little of any worthHe achieved an almost completely unregulated financial sectorHe went to war illegallyPlease don't tell me about the minimum wage which was set so low as to be irrelevant. In fact its been used as a yard stick to keep wages down, even this bunch of Tories want to see it higher.I am curious as to what you think he achievedHe wasn't all bad ....on the the plus side he did keep Thatcher's Anti Union legislation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lloydxmas Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Pretty tame, but I didn't really expect Cameron to drill into him on his first day.You have to shake your head though when one of the 1st questions is about funding for a bloody zoo. Surely there are more pressing issues at present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Bring back the old PMQ where they hurled insults at each other zzzzzzzzz this naming the person whose questions followed by What I would say to Steven is rather cringe worthy and reminiscent of I met a black man once Or I once invented a fictional black man if I recall correctly in Cameron's case.no he was real and Cameron did met him ..just he was 51 not 40 and only served 6 years in the Navy not 30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted September 16, 2015 Moderator Share Posted September 16, 2015 Bring back the old PMQ where they hurled insults at each other zzzzzzzzz this naming the person whose questions followed by What I would say to Steven is rather cringe worthy and reminiscent of I met a black man once Or I once invented a fictional black man if I recall correctly in Cameron's case. no he was real and Cameron did met him ..just he was 51 not 40 and only served 6 years in the Navy not 30 So Cameron did meet a blackman, got it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 The good news is that Corbyn has agreed to sing the national anthem in the future, to recognise the sacrifices made by the royal family during the war and their unerring stand against the Nazis. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnie Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I find myself largely agree with you Bickster. My worry with Cornyn is the naivety of some of his policies, and that he doesn't seem to understand, that you have to drop some of the unpopular/unrealistic ideology, if you actually want to make a real difference by getting the important changes made. You need to be in government.That's pretty much the view held by the Parliamentary Labour Party - and they're not wrong. For all the compromises Blair made to get power - He achieved more than those who just spout off left wing idealism.I think some members of the labour party are what I call political hobbyists - they actually prefer to be in opposition because they can spout off intellectual political theories - without ever having to put them into practice. We aren't suddenly going to go from Centre Right - to extreme left. (even if I do like some of those principles) What did Bliar actually achieve? I know he lobbed up some shit policies that are now being smashed back at us. He achieved very little of any worthHe achieved an almost completely unregulated financial sectorHe went to war illegallyPlease don't tell me about the minimum wage which was set so low as to be irrelevant. In fact its been used as a yard stick to keep wages down, even this bunch of Tories want to see it higher.I am curious as to what you think he achievedEducation, Education, Education!If it wasn't for Blair, myself and my friends wouldn't have been able to afford to have gone to University.On the flip side if it wasn't for Blair a University degree might of actually been worth the paper it was written on and you wouldn't have had so many wasters doing mickey mouse degrees like Media Studies, Music, David Beckham Studies, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I find myself largely agree with you Bickster. My worry with Cornyn is the naivety of some of his policies, and that he doesn't seem to understand, that you have to drop some of the unpopular/unrealistic ideology, if you actually want to make a real difference by getting the important changes made. You need to be in government.That's pretty much the view held by the Parliamentary Labour Party - and they're not wrong. For all the compromises Blair made to get power - He achieved more than those who just spout off left wing idealism.I think some members of the labour party are what I call political hobbyists - they actually prefer to be in opposition because they can spout off intellectual political theories - without ever having to put them into practice. We aren't suddenly going to go from Centre Right - to extreme left. (even if I do like some of those principles) What did Bliar actually achieve? I know he lobbed up some shit policies that are now being smashed back at us. He achieved very little of any worthHe achieved an almost completely unregulated financial sectorHe went to war illegallyPlease don't tell me about the minimum wage which was set so low as to be irrelevant. In fact its been used as a yard stick to keep wages down, even this bunch of Tories want to see it higher.I am curious as to what you think he achievedEducation, Education, Education!If it wasn't for Blair, myself and my friends wouldn't have been able to afford to have gone to University.On the flip side if it wasn't for Blair a University degree might of actually been worth the paper it was written on and you wouldn't have had so many wasters doing mickey mouse degrees like Media Studies, Music, David Beckham Studies, etc.There is so much unintentional irony in the highlighted phrases it's actually painful. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted September 16, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted September 16, 2015 A Labour source has said that Mr Corbyn would be singing the national anthem at future ceremonial events. so much for the champion of principles , he appears to be U-turning quicker than a French tank driverI am disappoint, son. Corbyn out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 He went on that long 4 MPs missed out on asking their questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I'm sure they were just as fascinating and important as the tiger issue or that tiresome and fatuous 'won't the PM agree with me that'' guff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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