Anthony Posted July 5 VT Supporter Share Posted July 5 1 minute ago, mjmooney said: "At Leeds, he was influenced by the indie music of the 1980s, from The Smiths and The Wedding Present to Orange Juice and Aztec Camera". Is that you in the white jacket Mike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted July 5 VT Supporter Share Posted July 5 Just now, Anthony said: Is that you in the white jacket Mike? You should have gone to Specsavers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted July 5 VT Supporter Share Posted July 5 My reaction to seeing that photo for the first time is not dissimilar to seeing Ricky Gervais as a would be 80’s pop star for the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 56 minutes ago, mjmooney said: "At Leeds, he was influenced by the indie music of the 1980s, from The Smiths and The Wedding Present to Orange Juice and Aztec Camera". Bloody 80s rubbish, I'm going off him. Would Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 5 Moderator Share Posted July 5 2 hours ago, tonyh29 said: was saying to someone just now ..Refrom got the same number of seats as the Greens , yet I doubt anyone even knows their names , barely got a mention in any of the TV I watched so yep presumably take Farage out the equation and Reform might well have tanked I think Reforms 4 MPs are much better known that the Green 4. Tice, Farage, Anderson and former owner of Southampton FC Rupert Lowe. Whereas the greens are Carla Denyer, Sian Berry, Mr Breast inflator and somebody else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Is it too early for a poll on “who do you think the next leader of the Labour Party will be “ ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 2 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: Is it too early for a poll on “who do you think the next leader of the Labour Party will be “ ? Spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted July 5 Moderator Share Posted July 5 1 hour ago, chrisp65 said: Hide contents Good green credentials, something of a heavyweight, though plenty of folk really don’t like him. Getting on a bit, now… and who’s that with him? Is it Catweasle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Interesting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sidcow Posted July 5 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted July 5 12 minutes ago, ml1dch said: Interesting. At least the locks should be good 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 I’ve seen some of Timpson’s prison work. Very promising. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 5 Moderator Share Posted July 5 46 minutes ago, sidcow said: At least the locks should be good The keys will be f***ing shite though 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Davkaus Posted July 5 Popular Post Share Posted July 5 30 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: I’ve seen some of Timpson’s prison work. Very promising. I've got a lot of time for the boss of Timpsons and how he runs his company, but I am absolutely **** appalled that one of the first things Labour have done is promote a bloke to the Lords to give them a cabinet job. I was furious when the tories did it for Cameron, and I'm absolutely **** gobsmacked these pricks have done it on day 1. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaoDeMings Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 4 minutes ago, Davkaus said: I've got a lot of time for the boss of Timpsons and how he runs his company, but I am absolutely **** appalled that one of the first things Labour have done is promote a bloke to the Lords to give them a cabinet job. I was furious when the tories did it for Cameron, and I'm absolutely **** gobsmacked these pricks have done it on day 1. It’s funny because I feel like I should be opposed to it ideologically, but I’m finding myself quite supportive of it really. They’re just giving a job to a guy who has expertise in that area. But there is a significant part of me that thinks it’s wrong as he’s not been elected. I suppose it’s a niche post and he won’t have much influence on the broader direction of the government; if it were a bigger, broader position, or if they were doing this for a decent number of cabinet posts rather than one or two, I imagine I’d feel differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted July 5 VT Supporter Share Posted July 5 11 minutes ago, Davkaus said: I've got a lot of time for the boss of Timpsons and how he runs his company, but I am absolutely **** appalled that one of the first things Labour have done is promote a bloke to the Lords to give them a cabinet job. I was furious when the tories did it for Cameron, and I'm absolutely **** gobsmacked these pricks have done it on day 1. Altogether now... They're the same... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 4 minutes ago, DaoDeMings said: They’re just giving a job to a guy who has expertise in that area. But there is a significant part of me that thinks it’s wrong as he’s not been elected. I suppose it’s a niche post and he won’t have much influence on the broader direction of the government; if it were a bigger, broader position, or if they were doing this for a decent number of cabinet posts rather than one or two, I imagine I’d feel differently. They're not just giving him a job, they're giving him a life peerage, when he might be in the job for 6 months. I'm all for hiring experts in their field for consultancy, or for those experts to run for office, but parachuting someone in to a title and perks for life because they're useful to the government, they want them in the cabinet, but they can't be arsed with trifling matters like securing a democratic mandate or doing constituency work? It's not right, in my book. I also presume that given he's a CEO of a company and can't be arsed being an MP that he'll be fulfilling his ministerial duties part time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaoDeMings Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 3 minutes ago, Davkaus said: They're not just giving him a job, they're giving him a life peerage, when he might be in the job for 6 months. I'm all for hiring experts in their field for consultancy, or for those experts to run for office, but parachuting someone in to a title and perks for life because they're useful to the government, they want them in the cabinet, but they can't be arsed with trifling matters like securing a democratic mandate or doing constituency work? It's not right, in my book. I also presume that given he's a CEO of a company and can't be arsed being an MP that he'll be fulfilling his ministerial duties part time. Yeah, I think you’re right to be fair. I guess the problem is more that there isn’t a mechanism to appoint a non-MP to the cabinet without giving them a peerage. But that’s a slippery slope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted July 5 VT Supporter Share Posted July 5 32 minutes ago, DaoDeMings said: Yeah, I think you’re right to be fair. I guess the problem is more that there isn’t a mechanism to appoint a non-MP to the cabinet without giving them a peerage. But that’s a slippery slope. Why does he have to be on the Cabinet to help out? Give the role to an actual MP and let him offer advice as a consultant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 1 hour ago, Davkaus said: I'm all for hiring experts in their field for consultancy, or for those experts to run for office, but parachuting someone in to a title and perks for life because they're useful to the government, they want them in the cabinet, but they can't be arsed with trifling matters like securing a democratic mandate or doing constituency work? It's not right, in my book. Surely the solution then is there needs to be a way that a suitable person can be appointed without ennobling them. If James Timpson is the perfect person to sort out the crisis that the Tories have created in the prison system, his ability to fix it shouldn't be dependent on how many hours he can spend campaigning in Sunderland West, or whether he spends his Fridays sending emails about fence disputes on behalf of his constituents. But as you say, if he is the perfect person then his capacity to do it also shouldn't need him to become Lord Timpson to do it. And the third way is just as bad - don't make a random stooge the person responsible and make someone else do the work. If this bloke is the person who can make the county better then give him the role and responsibility. If the system is shit, fix the system rather than us just saying "300 years ago it was decided we should it this way, so we're doing it this way". People seem to be dead up for House Of Lords reform, let's chuck this on the pile of stuff to do as part of it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delboy54 Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 If the Tories had done this everyone would be up in arms, because Labour have done it some are trying to justify it! Just saying....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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