ml1dch Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Not sure I like that. She's one of the proper wrong 'uns. Feels like she should be joining Anderson's mob. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 8 Moderator Share Posted May 8 3 minutes ago, ml1dch said: Not sure I like that. She's one of the proper wrong 'uns. Feels like she should be joining Anderson's mob. WTF are they doing letting her in? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted May 8 VT Supporter Share Posted May 8 2 minutes ago, bickster said: WTF are they doing letting her in? Can they not just deselect her as a candidate when the time comes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 8 Moderator Share Posted May 8 1 minute ago, choffer said: Can they not just deselect her as a candidate when the time comes? Well they'd already selected their candidate for Dover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted May 8 VT Supporter Share Posted May 8 1 minute ago, bickster said: Well they'd already selected their candidate for Dover All very odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 8 Moderator Share Posted May 8 She was suspended from Parliament for a day for trying to bring undue influence on the senior judges in charge of her husband's appeal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted May 8 VT Supporter Share Posted May 8 Tories shouldn't be that easily welcome in the Labour Party. Unless... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Kinda tells us a lot about Starmer's labour. She's more than welcome to ditch the tories, but Labour don't have to let her in with open arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 3 hours ago, Wainy316 said: I do find it amusing how Starmer and Labour seem to be getting more blame from some quarters for the situation in Gaza than Benjamin Netanyahu is. Anyone apportioning more blame is clearly insane. But they are rightfully under fire for adopting a weasly position that seems to suggest complicity/ ambivalence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Labour's very open minded, they just accepted yet another Tory defector into their ranks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 41 minutes ago, bickster said: Well they'd already selected their candidate for Dover Apparently their original one is still the candidate for the next election. So Henry Zeffman says, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted May 8 VT Supporter Share Posted May 8 11 minutes ago, ml1dch said: Apparently their original one is still the candidate for the next election. So Henry Zeffman says, anyway. Yep. Apparently she was always standing down at the next election so she’s just done it to give Rishi a bloody nose. Quite why Starmer has gone with it is baffling (other than the obvious optics). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 8 Moderator Share Posted May 8 As much as I said elsewhere that the Left prefer the gesture over the reality, this may well be one of those times where the opposite is true. The upside of this particular move is far outweighed by the downside The optics of this one are all wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 8 Moderator Share Posted May 8 1 hour ago, Jon said: Anyone apportioning ANY blame is clearly insane FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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blandy Posted May 8 Moderator Share Posted May 8 18 minutes ago, bickster said: The optics of this one are all wrong I have absolutely no idea who she is and don’t think I have ever heard of her before today. I guess most people will be similarly unaware of her until today. Perhaps those optics “Tory leaves and joins labour” following on from the election results is “the optics” for the vast majority of people, and that’s the extent of it? Obviously from what people have posted, she’s a throbber, but if she’s not standing at the next election, then it’s just a short term sugar rush kind of thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Her letter of resignation is basically regret that Bozza did nothing wrong and Rishi stabbed him in the back, when the reality is basically the entire cabinet stabbed the clown in the front. I reckon Starmer would welcome in Braverman if she asked to join 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 (edited) 20 minutes ago, blandy said: I have absolutely no idea who she is and don’t think I have ever heard of her before today. I guess most people will be similarly unaware of her until today. Perhaps those optics “Tory leaves and joins labour” following on from the election results is “the optics” for the vast majority of people, and that’s the extent of it? You're probably right in terms of the wider public. But she's pretty well known. She's the one who stepped in to the seat in Dover after her husband (the previous MP) was sent to prison for sexual assault and was then suspended from the Commons for trying to influence the judge in the trial. Then after the conviction blamed his victims. It's not going to be something that sways the election. But bicks is right it's not that there are no benefits to having her under the Labour banner, but they're outweighed by the downsides. Edited May 8 by ml1dch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 A bit of a PR stunt as she is standing down at the next election. A peerage must be in the post. I can't think of many MP's defecting to then have much of a career. The only one I can think of is Shaun Woodward who went Tory to Labour who ended up as secretary of northern Ireland for a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 7 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: A bit of a PR stunt as she is standing down at the next election. A peerage must be in the post. There were peerages going? Nadine is going to lose her shit 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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