ml1dch Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Jareth said: The free meals are very good, the kids that want a wider choice, can still have a wider choice. I'm one of the parents that accepts the free meals, we then give more to things like the PTA which serves other areas of the school which are vastly underfunded. The kids all sit together and eat and there's no division or stigma over who has the free stuff, as overall there is a blend. What's more the caterer that provides the meals is a not for profit organisation, so any profit goes back into the system. What's not to like about this way of doing things? It sounds perfectly fine. I just don't think that me chipping in a few quid a week for such a system, while those who couldn't afford it wouldn't have to, would be the thing that stopped it from sounding perfectly fine. Edited June 27, 2023 by ml1dch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bobzy Posted June 27, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 27, 2023 23 minutes ago, Jareth said: The free meals are very good, the kids that want a wider choice, can still have a wider choice. I'm one of the parents that accepts the free meals They’re for the kids you **** animal. 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted June 30, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 30, 2023 Quote Keir Starmer has been accused of presiding over a Labour party obsessed with “petty tyranny”, as the head of the centre-left pressure group Compass claimed he faced expulsion as a member after 44 years. In a move that will reignite concerns of overzealous factionalism on the part of the Labour leader’s allies, Neal Lawson said they were determined to maintain a “domineering power” that had even left some MPs “cowed by the fear that they will be next”. Grauniad attenborough "After feasting on socia-... anti-semetic faces and wiping them out of the territory, the sensibilist face eating leopard finds it must secure it's future with the consumption of all creatures in its domain that do not wholly resemble it" /attenborough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 30, 2023 Moderator Share Posted June 30, 2023 11 minutes ago, Chindie said: Grauniad attenborough "After feasting on socia-... anti-semetic faces and wiping them out of the territory, the sensibilist face eating leopard finds it must secure it's future with the consumption of all creatures in its domain that do not wholly resemble it" /attenborough He retweeted a LibDem MP's call for their supporters to vote Green. I'm not sure what expected tbh, it's always been against the rules of the Labour Party to show support for other political parties. All his talk about Labour being founded on pluralism, whilst true, that pluralism was internal to the Labour Party I'm really not sure what he expected would happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted June 30, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 30, 2023 It just adds to the nice hypocrisy brew. Work to actively undermine the party, doubles all round old chap. Starmer has even spoken out against people being booted from the party for openly voting against it. Lovely people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 26 minutes ago, bickster said: He retweeted a LibDem MP's call for their supporters to vote Green. I'm not sure what expected tbh, it's always been against the rules of the Labour Party to show support for other political parties. All his talk about Labour being founded on pluralism, whilst true, that pluralism was internal to the Labour Party I'm really not sure what he expected would happen. Sure. But it's not like there isn't precedent for people to have supported (or even stood for) other parties in the party's recent history who have been welcomed back with open arms. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 30, 2023 Moderator Share Posted June 30, 2023 22 minutes ago, ml1dch said: Sure. But it's not like there isn't precedent for people to have supported (or even stood for) other parties in the party's recent history who have been welcomed back with open arms. There is also Alistair Campbell on the other side of that coin This bloke hasn't been expelled yet either. He may not be, who knows EDIT: Also the likes of Luciana Berger left first thenhad activities with other parties, which is a different situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 2 hours ago, bickster said: He retweeted a LibDem MP's call for their supporters to vote Green. I'm not sure what expected tbh, it's always been against the rules of the Labour Party to show support for other political parties. All his talk about Labour being founded on pluralism, whilst true, that pluralism was internal to the Labour Party I'm really not sure what he expected would happen. The retweet was in 2021. He co founded Compass 20 years ago, this is what they say about themselves on their website: Quote We are founded on the belief that no single issue, organisation or political party can make a Good Society a reality by themselves so we have to work together to make it happen. I guess that tweet 2 years ago was just the straw that broke the camel’s back for Labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 30, 2023 Moderator Share Posted June 30, 2023 42 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: The retweet was in 2021. He co founded Compass 20 years ago, this is what they say about themselves on their website: I guess that tweet 2 years ago was just the straw that broke the camel’s back for Labour. Given his political stance (centre - left) it would have taken someone to complain about it for it to come to the Party's attention. Now there's two obvious types of people who would report it, either someone he's annoyed in some shape or form personally or someone from the “other side” (whatever that may be) Now imagine the fuss that would be kicked up if the reportee from the other side saw that nothing happened after they'd reported it… So purge or due process? Get rid of him and it's a purge, do nothing and it’s one rule for one etc. Labour can't really win. Complaint made, due process being followed. It’s all Labour can do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted June 30, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 30, 2023 Suffer not the heretic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 On 27/06/2023 at 14:48, Jareth said: We've had free school meals implemented at primary age in Wales. In my kids classes those who can afford what they want come to school with their own packed lunch full of everything their heart desires - they don't take the free option. Some who can afford it do, but not many. If Labour have a better idea I'm all ears - but I can see in practice that the idea works. Labour are on the same side as the Tories here. In Wales, children on free school meals have a different meal than those that pay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 13 minutes ago, DCJonah said: In Wales, children on free school meals have a different meal than those that pay? There's a hot and cold option, lots are wedded to their own packed lunch so carry on with that, some will take the free option and supplement it with bits from home, some will just take the free option because in reality it's enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 My grandson has free school meals until year 3. The meals are the same for payers and free meals. Depending what it is, Pizza, Burger or not, is the reason he will have packed lunch or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 11 hours ago, Jareth said: There's a hot and cold option, lots are wedded to their own packed lunch so carry on with that, some will take the free option and supplement it with bits from home, some will just take the free option because in reality it's enough. I didn't realise that. At our school free school meals means they have a free school meal. Not a different one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, DCJonah said: I didn't realise that. At our school free school meals means they have a free school meal. Not a different one. No there’s one menu, hot and cold. So everyone gets it, but those for whom it’s not to their taste, bring in a packed lunch full of stuff from home. Some do half and half. I'm crap at explaining! Edited July 1, 2023 by Jareth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 Yeah, there’s not a paupers menu. There’s a menu, which has choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 Anyway, Thames Water: From the Labour website KeirStarmer.com: Quote 5. Common ownership Public services should be in public hands, not making profits for shareholders. Support common ownership of rail, mail, energy and water. Anybody know how that’s going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted July 1, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 1, 2023 Labour have already set their stall out to not spook the horses - no nationalisation, meaningless fiscal guidelines will fix everything. Warms the cockles of your heart, doesn't it? Change? No! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted July 2, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 2, 2023 Quote Cruddas, who is writing a history to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the first Labour government, told the Observer the way the party was purging critics and trying to stifle internal debate was a disgrace that would come back to haunt it: “This is unprecedented in Labour history – the most rightwing, illiberal faction in the party has been handed control to decide who is and is not a member. They are settling scores and are clearly embarked on a witch-hunt – not just of the Corbynite left but of mainstream democrats within the party such as Neal. Grauniad Purges are ok when the people we like do them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 Some of the rhetoric from the 'purged' is starting to sound a lot like Trumpism, be it if you break the rules of the party or not. 'Witch hunt!' 'Made up nonsense!' 'The right is taking me out' I don't get why so many of the purposed targets of the witch hunt can't abide by the rules that their blessed St. Jezza enforced with just the same fervour. It's like the left of labour struggle to read the rule book and keep stepping in it. It makes Keir's job easy. You'd think that they'd manage to at least follow some very basic rules. I'm not a fan of the factionalism but I do sometimes wonder if politicians ever actually considered reading the rule book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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