Xann Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 2 hours ago, bickster said: I think you can probably sling that accusation at both albeit in Corbyn's case, second -hand via Milne You think that then. Had he had a sniff? I think Beardy would likely have investigated how oppressors launder and stash their money via the City, but hey we'll never know? As for the war, we've got to hope the Ukrainian counter offensive is a runaway success or provokes a takeover in Moscow? If the push runs out of steam and Putin is still in power? He'll likely return to the poorer, remote areas of the federation for more troops and throw them into his war of attrition. I wouldn't think everyone in Yakutsk and Siberia are rapists and dangerous criminals, which makes deaths on both sides absolute obscenity. The video footage coming out of Ukraine right now isn't like it was a year ago. I thought the recent stuff from the trenches flanking Bakhmut was pretty rough, but the scrap in the ruins of the town is a deeper hell still. Bodies everywhere, it's awful. Every day that passes with losses like these takes both sides away from any substantive victory and towards a Pyrrhic conclusion. You just have to look at the mockery that was the WMD hunt in Iraq to realise that military interventions can turn into sores that run for decades, and have unforeseen consequences. Like people thinking bobbing around in dinghies in the Med or the Channel with toddlers in tow is a better bet than trying to raise a family in a broken and chaotic ancestral homeland. I don't know how this ends? It may be the entré to a greater struggle between the East & West, or it might make Xi think again? It's a mess. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 This video is pure pain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 30, 2023 Moderator Share Posted March 30, 2023 I'm confused, you want a worse Britain? Or is this an objection to the style? It's a bit cringeworthy I must admit but so is Eastenders and millions of people seem to love that bollocks. It's definitely not aimed at me, nor probably you because we both actively have an interest in politics, this is aimed at the vast majority of people that aren't and they respond to soundbites and subtle messaging far more than they engage with shall we say "real politics." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, bickster said: I'm confused, you want a worse Britain? Or is this an objection to the style? It's a bit cringeworthy I must admit but so is Eastenders and millions of people seem to love that bollocks. It's definitely not aimed at me, nor probably you because we both actively have an interest in politics, this is aimed at the vast majority of people that aren't and they respond to soundbites and subtle messaging far more than they engage with shall we say "real politics." I think you're doing Eastenders a massive disservice there. For the hoi polloi who you say are affected by these powerful messages, I think it's possibly better for Starmer to let his deputy take the lead - he's only reinforcing his personality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 30, 2023 Moderator Share Posted March 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Jareth said: I think you're doing Eastenders a massive disservice there. For the hoi polloi who you say are affected by these powerful messages, I think it's possibly better for Starmer to let his deputy take the lead - he's only reinforcing his personality. Right, so your criticism is that you don't like Starmer, OK fair enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, bickster said: Right, so your criticism is that you don't like Starmer, OK fair enough Nah - it's the slogan - "Build a better Britain" - it's the stifling set up of the video - it's the bad editing - it's the inability of Raynor to act out something so false - it's also Swindon what a shit hole - it's all very contrived - it's also absolutely weak when it comes to cheap political stunts (see Boris on a JCB what done it better) - ok and it's Starmer - he's crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 This is the worst possible interpretation of Trumpy name calling. If the bad guy is 1% bad, and you are saying you will offer 1% in the right direction, well does this win you an election? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Whenever I see Starmer's saggy, puce face, I hear Ren Hoek saying "Hog jowls!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 30, 2023 Moderator Share Posted March 30, 2023 11 minutes ago, Jareth said: This is the worst possible interpretation Every time he farts, the worst possible eggy sulphuric smell the world's olfactory senses have ever encountered appears to jet stream itself up your nose For most of us, its just a fart, it's not even a Tory fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Just now, bickster said: Every time he farts, the worst possible eggy sulphuric smell the world's olfactory senses have ever encountered appears to jet stream itself up your nose For most of us, its just a fart, it's not even a Tory fart If you enjoy sniffing farts - that's your thing dude. If Starmer farted, I'm not sure anyone would hear it, it'd be silent and if smelt it'd be hard to differentiate with the smell of a faded geranium. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 30, 2023 Moderator Share Posted March 30, 2023 22 hours ago, Xann said: You think that then. Had he had a sniff? I think Beardy would likely have investigated how oppressors launder and stash their money via the City, but hey we'll never know? It's not really about my beliefs, it's about looking at the shite he surrounded himself with Ah so he'd not have investigated the likes of his mates Galloway, Williamson (obvs not, they both got paid by Iranian State Media) and Milne? Seems just like the Tories in reverse tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 56 minutes ago, bickster said: Seems just like the Tories in reverse tbh We're scoring things differently. You can't say I haven't put the working out up before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted March 31, 2023 Moderator Share Posted March 31, 2023 I like to think that Starmer has a dog called Corbyn, and that when he farts he points at it and says bad dog. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted March 31, 2023 Author Share Posted March 31, 2023 (edited) On 30/03/2023 at 21:06, bickster said: I'm confused, you want a worse Britain? Or is this an objection to the style? It's a bit cringeworthy I must admit but so is Eastenders and millions of people seem to love that bollocks. It's definitely not aimed at me, nor probably you because we both actively have an interest in politics, this is aimed at the vast majority of people that aren't and they respond to soundbites and subtle messaging far more than they engage with shall we say "real politics." Are you telling me thats actually a good video? Its one of the most pointless videos ive seen It proper cringe Edited March 31, 2023 by Demitri_C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 31, 2023 Moderator Share Posted March 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Are you telling me thats actually a good video? I'm fairly sure I didn't say anything of the sort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 For about 1 second, I thought bloody hell he’s grown a pair! Then I realised it was a fake. Then I realised how ‘grown a pair’ was probably not the best initial reaction on my behalf. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted April 1, 2023 Author Share Posted April 1, 2023 13 hours ago, bickster said: I'm fairly sure I didn't say anything of the sort So what was your original point? That video was terrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted April 1, 2023 Moderator Share Posted April 1, 2023 22 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: So what was your original point? That video was terrible Maybe read it and find out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted April 1, 2023 Author Share Posted April 1, 2023 4 hours ago, bickster said: Maybe read it and find out Thats what im asking your position is unclear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 It's absolutely absurd. Labour have gone from increased democracy to zero democracy. That the leadership can dictate who can stand is a massive back step. There has been a lot of desire on here for PR - but Labour now only allow candidates that agree with the leadership, they will never allow PR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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