bickster Posted October 5, 2015 Moderator Share Posted October 5, 2015 Surprised the left aren't complaining about this new tax introduced today that unfairly targets the poor ... really need a two tier bag system whereby the rich pay 7p for their plastic bags Its the right that whine about green taxes Ahhhhh but is alive and well it seems Well not not really, the ahh but defence is a x did this so supporters of x say Y did similar in defence of x's actions This one is just, no you are plain wrong. How can I be plain wrong ... How many months do you have spare for the preamble? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 so anyway moving on from Bick's attempt to deflect from his latest defeat .... Spitting at people and calling them scum as they attend a conference .... the left really are some vile people aren't they ? ( as well as hate filled and abusive ) I'll await the posts of it being justified because it was Tories and because blah blah blah but presumably nobody is really going to try and defend the indefensible are they ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 5, 2015 Moderator Share Posted October 5, 2015 In before the Ah But Prescot defence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 so anyway moving on from Bick's attempt to deflect from his latest defeat .... Spitting at people and calling them scum as they attend a conference .... the left really are some vile people aren't they ? ( as well as hate filled and abusive ) I'll await the posts of it being justified because it was Tories and because blah blah blah but presumably nobody is really going to try and defend the indefensible are they ? Owen Jones got called a 'Tory scumbag' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rodders Posted October 5, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2015 dunno, if you use the minority to tar the brush of a majority that seems to be quite the prejudicial approach to take really. Deflecting from 80,000 protestors ( 4 arrests in total, even the police were praising it ) to use a handful to ignore the argument is like a pious arsehole ignoring an argument someone makes because there's a naughty word in it. Reminds me of the dickwit and the fire extinguisher with the tuition fee protestors. the dickheads are dickheads agreed, but there's a huge majority of people who were rightfully angry protesting peacefully and with dignity.It happens all the time from both sides obviously, but just shows the media using their power to ignore the people they don't like to try and blanket write off an entire political position. Focus on the 99% or the 1% for a fair reflection...And I've been guilty of it myself as well, ( as I would wager most people have been at some point ) but then I'm also not a professional journalist, not that it excuses it but if you want to reflect an argument and opposing viewpoints, you could photo some dicks with eggs, or talk to those ready to articulate their feelings. One is sadly rather more newsworthy than the other... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I'd agree with you to a degree if VT didn't have it's own "all Tories are scum " mantra .. but I'm sure you've already made the same observation about prejudical approaches in that thread and I just missed it ( I wont do another blandy deleted it joke ) 4 arrests out of 80,000 is commendable but it could have been as a result of restraint by the rozzers rather than an indication that only 4 people were up to no good , either way the spitting is still pretty vile ...Regardless I still expected this thread to be full of emabarrsed left wingers denouncing the actions of egg throwing , spitting , scum calling etc ..even if it was only by a few Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 (edited) Regardless I still expected this thread to be full of emabarrsed left wingers denouncing the actions of egg throwing , spitting , scum calling etc ..even if it was only by a few Why? If they're not the ones responsible for the spitting and 'scum calling'? I'm not sure I really mind them egging people though I'd hope they'd keep it in reserve for the real villains: Duncan Smith, Hunt, Osborne, Cameron, May, Blair, Campbell and Sir Danny Alexander - if anyone can find the bastard. Edited October 5, 2015 by snowychap To shove Hunt on the list 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chrisp65 Posted October 5, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2015 I'm still waiting for the right wing supporters of the tory party to apologise for Daily Mail support of nazism, Bernard Moseley and Cable Street.Nobody ever spat at anyone in my name. I trust nobody ever sacked a hard working family man in your name?Silly argument is silly. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I've just found out a couple of mates are at the SFA gig in Manchester tonight.That should have some atmosphere!But they're good boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Can you survive as Jeremy Corbyn ? The press hates you, lots of your party hates you – can you make it through a week without resigning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 I didn't manage to make a single good decision! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Close enough Vote Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zen Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 I didn't manage to make a single good decision! Oh, that depends what you did in the toilet paper situation, doesn't it? *Runs for cover before any sensitive Royalists notice* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 The toilet paper situation finished me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Yep I shit myself on the Andrew Marr show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Yep, the queens pooey face ruined me.In reality, my first decision as newly appointed labour leader would be to sack Benjy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Thanks to you lot I survived the week. I'll never wipe again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 19, 2015 Author Share Posted October 19, 2015 I think this is probably the most divided I have seen labour in my lifetime (i am only 32 years old). If I was UKIP or Lib Dems I would be trying to take advanatge of this. The SNP must be loving this secretly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 19, 2015 Moderator Share Posted October 19, 2015 I think this is probably the most divided I have seen labour in my lifetime (i am only 32 years old). If I was UKIP or Lib Dems I would be trying to take advanatge of this. The SNP must be loving this secretly.The Labour Party just elected a leader with over 50% of the vote on the first ballot. That is almost unprecedented with a field of four candidates. The Labour Party itself is probably less divided than at most times in its history on that evidence.The media however will tell you differently 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 19, 2015 Author Share Posted October 19, 2015 I think this is probably the most divided I have seen labour in my lifetime (i am only 32 years old). If I was UKIP or Lib Dems I would be trying to take advanatge of this. The SNP must be loving this secretly.The Labour Party just elected a leader with over 50% of the vote on the first ballot. That is almost unprecedented with a field of four candidates. The Labour Party itself is probably less divided than at most times in its history on that evidence.The media however will tell you differentlyIt is not just the media though bicks. For example I saw Andy Burnham giving an interview on TV the other night and he just looked un-interested and didnt believe in what he was saying supporting Corbyns image Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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