chrisp65 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 (edited) Well that's the judgement debate wrapped up. Edited September 20, 2015 by chrisp65 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 I am crying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 If it's about 'judgement' of friends, associates and political appointments then let's not forget: or what exactly did Brooks get convicted of ? but surely for balance you'd point out that Brooks is a friend of Cameron's and then mention that Gordon Brown isn't and thus went to her wedding either in an official capacity as Prime Minister or for his own aims of cosying up to news international ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) what exactly did Brooks get convicted of ? Nothing. Who suggested she had been? but surely for balance you'd point out that Brooks is a friend of Cameron's Just a friend? and then mention that Gordon Brown isn't and thus went to her wedding either in an official capacity as Prime Minister or for his own aims of cosying up to news international ? I haven't got the time or inclination to list/point out/post pictures of all of the politicians who may have coseyed up to Brooks and others or to post the pictures of all of the nefarious types with whom politicians (or just PMs) have had connections and relationships. Edit: I thought the claim was that Brooks was Sarah Brown's mate? I'd have thought that, had the Browns attended the Brookses' wedding (I have no idea who went but you seem to know the guest list), Gordo would have been the companion his wife would have been expected to take. I'll leave it up to you or anyone else to claim to 'provide balance' - glad you didn't excuse Cameron for Coulson, though. Edited September 21, 2015 by snowychap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Have to seriously doubt the judgement of someone who would have an affair with Diane AbbotI would say that Corbyn's three short marriages and history of philandering make him ideally suited to being a politician, in that he is flexible enough not to allow past commitments to constrain his pragmatic choices in the present.He might not be entirely committed to keeping the specific promises of exclusivity and sexual fidelity but he demonstrates he's consistent with his belief in the bourgeois convention of marriage.This shows that he is flexible when it comes to details of policy but consistent with his basic principles, which he's clearly demonstrated in his early days as leader of the Labour party. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Well that's the judgement debate wrapped up. yep Corbyn loses by some margin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 BTW as hilarious as this all is, we mustn't forget that a **** General threatened a coup if Corbyn won.Cannae trust the military. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_c Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Disappointingly Cornyn is going to ask proper questions at PMQ's and I assume not mention the pig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Disappointingly Cornyn is going to ask proper questions at PMQ's and I assume not mention the pig. in a week where he has u-turned on the National Anthem , turned his back on his republican principals and now left the stop the war coalition as it will cost him votes , I wouldn't be surprised to see him change his mind on PMQ's as well ... so get the popcorn ready and expect Corbyn to go the whole hog on pig jokes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_c Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Hopefully it'll be a complete roasting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) Disappointingly Cornyn is going to ask proper questions at PMQ's and I assume not mention the pig. What are 'proper questions'? not sure what's going on with the quoting! Edited September 21, 2015 by Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Well that's the judgement debate wrapped up. Cameron and more of his Pig Society rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chrisp65 Posted September 21, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2015 Have to seriously doubt the judgement of someone who would have an affair with Diane Abbotand the 2015 VT Award for 'best mis-timed comment' goes to... 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Why mistimed? Dont you question his judgement? I do.If you want to question someone else's judgement for an allegation that's up to you really but it doesn't make my comment mistimed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Richard, there's no such award. I made it up just for fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Richard, there's no such award. I made it up just for fun. You mean you haven't had a trophy made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Why mistimed? Dont you question his judgement? I do.If you want to question someone else's judgement for an allegation that's up to you really but it doesn't make my comment mistimed. So you're sticking with this 'I question his judgement today because he slept with someone I don't like 40 years ago' argument? I've got to tell you, it was stupid yesterday and it hasn't improved in the intervening 24 hours. It's okay. You don't like Corbyn. That's fine! But I think, on mature reflection, you're going to come to the conclusion that **** someone forty years ago as a man in his mid-20's is a pretty poor reason not to like him in his mid-60's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 BTW as hilarious as this all is, we mustn't forget that a **** General threatened a coup if Corbyn won.Cannae trust the military.Quite so, they're all wrong 'uns. I'd much rather entrust Corbyn and his eminently competent acolytes with the future security of the UK and my family.Still, as the Conservatives have actually gone up in the polls since 'that' election, I think this can filed with contingencies like 'how to defeat an alien invasion' and 'actions on in the zombie apocalypse'. Labour may have lost its collective marbles but I doubt the country at large wishes to follow them off a cliff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) Richard, there's no such award. I made it up just for fun. Why mistimed? Dont you question his judgement? I do.If you want to question someone else's judgement for an allegation that's up to you really but it doesn't make my comment mistimed. So you're sticking with this 'I question his judgement today because he slept with someone I don't like 40 years ago' argument? I've got to tell you, it was stupid yesterday and it hasn't improved in the intervening 24 hours. It's okay. You don't like Corbyn. That's fine! But I think, on mature reflection, you're going to come to the conclusion that **** someone forty years ago as a man in his mid-20's is a pretty poor reason not to like him in his mid-60's. Richard, there's no such award. I made it up just for fun. Yes I'm acutely aware that there is no such award but perhaps you were not clear on the point you were trying to make, and then compounded that with not actually reading my post. The substantive bit of your post was that mine was mistimed. If you check my reply you'll see i do not question the , quite frankly, silly award bit of your post but i question your assertion that my post was mistimed. Presumably based on the fact that someone has made allegations about the PM. Well those allegations do not make my point mistimedWhy mistimed? Dont you question his judgement? I do.If you want to question someone else's judgement for an allegation that's up to you really but it doesn't make my comment mistimed. So you're sticking with this 'I question his judgement today because he slept with someone I don't like 40 years ago' argument? I've got to tell you, it was stupid yesterday and it hasn't improved in the intervening 24 hours. It's okay. You don't like Corbyn. That's fine! But I think, on mature reflection, you're going to come to the conclusion that **** someone forty years ago as a man in his mid-20's is a pretty poor reason not to like him in his mid-60's. Firstly I'm not sure how I can like or dislike Corbyn having never actually met him. I tend to reserve those feelings for those Ive actually met. So it's not a question of disliking him as you suggest. I very much disagree with his policies I think the majority of the country will too and in that respect he will harm labour's electoral chances. So in many respects as I want their chances harmed, using your analogy I should actually be more inclined to like him. But neither is true.Secondly on your first para, yes I question his judgement. Not only did he have an affair while married , which I find questionable , but then he gave his former lover a high profile role in the Shadow Cabinet a decision I would then asked on what was that based because quite frankly Diane Abbot is one of the least impressive politicans I have come across. So yes I question his judgement but the quote you use against me is wrong. I have not said 'I question his judgement today because he slept with someone I don't like 40 years ago' (again I neither like or dislike Abbot) but that is putting words in my mouth, incorrect words at that. Edited September 21, 2015 by Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 ...he gave his former lover a high profile role in the Shadow Cabinet a decision I would then asked on what was that based...I am no fan of Diane Abbot (quite the opposite, frankly) but this is what the Torygraph said about her in 2011:Diane AbbottLabour MP for HackneyThe idea of Diane Abbott influencing anything would have provoked hollow laughter in Labour Party circles 18 months ago. But not now. She knew she wouldn’t win the Labour leadership but she has skillfully used her campaign to promote her own agenda and increase her political profile throughout the media. She accepted a front bench position shadowing health and she has remained on message and become one of Labour’s best front bench performers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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