PongRiddims Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Why don't the Guardian support Corbyn that much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 I think the Guardian is a little bit middle class, despite it's Manchester routes.Stereotypically, you'd find a Guardian on the coffee table in the school staff room, where it's easy to pontificate on all things left, but there is little desire to chance losing any actual status or pension rights and make this a workers' republic.So the Guardian tends to be 'anti-tory' rather than 'pro-socialist'. I think they quite liked the theory of new labour / labour lite.Maybe.Or they can just see he has some unpalatable and unworkabley expensive ideas in there amongst the brilliant populist stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 (edited) nobody reads the Guardian , you just tell people you read it to try and look intelligent Blandy is a perfect example of this (Hi Blandy ) Edited September 8, 2015 by tonyh29 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 (edited) I've got the Guardian and the Observer regularly for a few months now.It's free in Waitrose and it's the exact same size as the rabbit's litter tray.Rarely read it, haven't even flipped through the last few, just brought them home and put them in the newspaper pile, ready for pet clean out day.That might sound a bit div, but it is true. It's symptomatic of why the planet needs to kill us off. Edited September 8, 2015 by chrisp65 apostro'phe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 or why we should kill any animal incapable of using a flush toilet now I know what your going to say and its true nobody ever killed a spider with a rolled up iPad but they can be taken care of with napalm just as effectively so there is still no place for the Guardian (or Observer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 I've got the Guardian and the Observer regularly for a few months now.It's free in Waitrose and it's the exact same size as the rabbit's litter tray.Rarely read it, haven't even flipped through the last few, just brought them home and put them in the newspaper pile, ready for pet clean out day.That might sound a bit div, but it is true. It's symptomatic of why the planet needs to kill us off.This is exactly the extent of my interaction with the Grauniad as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Why don't the Guardian support Corbyn that much?Because they're ideologically of the centre-left, and always have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 9, 2015 Moderator Share Posted September 9, 2015 nobody reads the Guardian , you just tell people you read it to try and look intelligent Blandy is a perfect example of this (Hi Blandy ) He's not here to defend himself, so I'll do it for him. He reads the Indie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Why don't the Guardian support Corbyn that much?They would like to see a Labour Government this side of the second coming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Is it a day left before the right wing worry more about the labour leadership than the left wing? What will you all focus on when its decided? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Is it a day left before the right wing worry more about the labour leadership than the left wing? What will you all focus on when its decided?Laughing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Is it a day left before the right wing worry more about the labour leadership than the left wing? What will you all focus on when its decided?Laughing at the poor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Is it a day left before the right wing worry more about the labour leadership than the left wing? What will you all focus on when its decided?Laughing at the poor.Indeed, the plight of poor people is a source of constant merriment in my gaff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 nobody reads the Guardian , you just tell people you read it to try and look intelligent Blandy is a perfect example of this (Hi Blandy ) He's not here to defend himself, so I'll do it for him. He reads the Indie! my bad but tbf he looks like a guardian reader :) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 In my more right on days I gave the guardian a stab, I like balance though and if I read a broadsheet I go for the indie, weirdly I do get enjoyment out of the telegraph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Yes, if I do pick up a newspaper it'll be the Independent, although that's sadly becoming more difficult to find.Not a big deal for me, but their sports reporting is going down hill. They have a dick of a footy writer that keeps dropping into articles that Wales can now throw in the towel and merge with England, now they've (almost) qualified for something. He only does it to wind people up, but it wipes out a few other footy forums for 24 hours every time he does it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Is it a day left before the right wing worry more about the labour leadership than the left wing? What will you all focus on when its decided?Laughing at the poor.Indeed, the plight of poor people is a source of constant merriment in my gaff. I **** knew it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Why don't the Guardian support Corbyn that much?The Guardian has been notorious for not being able to make up its mind for decades and so backing Corbyn would be too near to actually making a choice between left and right.And he lacks any feminist credentials, which he addressed with his women-only railway carriages, which sadly misfired.They describe Cooper (their choice) as a 'down to earth feminist'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Why don't the Guardian support Corbyn that much?The Guardian has been notorious for not being able to make up its mind for decades and so backing Corbyn would be too near to actually making a choice between left and right.And he lacks any feminist credentials, which he addressed with his women-only railway carriages, which sadly misfired.They describe Cooper (their choice) as a 'down to earth feminist'. I don't really think this is true. They know exactly what they support - centre-left candidates. Certainly not far-left candidates. They have changed which party they officially support at an election, between Labour and Lib Dems, but each time it reflects a perception of which party is closer to that centre-left position, what they would probably describe with a naff term like 'capitalism with a conscience'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Why don't the Guardian support Corbyn that much?The Guardian has been notorious for not being able to make up its mind for decades and so backing Corbyn would be too near to actually making a choice between left and right.And he lacks any feminist credentials, which he addressed with his women-only railway carriages, which sadly misfired.They describe Cooper (their choice) as a 'down to earth feminist'. I don't really think this is true. They know exactly what they support - centre-left candidates. Certainly not far-left candidates. They have changed which party they officially support at an election, between Labour and Lib Dems, but each time it reflects a perception of which party is closer to that centre-left position, what they would probably describe with a naff term like 'capitalism with a conscience'. As you might expect I am more cynical than that.I just see it as a paper for privileged middle-class people in the educational sector who want a left-wing government to expand their budgets and increase their wages, but don't want anything too radical which might undermine their pay differential or class privileges.Just saying, like. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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