One For The Road Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Sherwood to be sacked tomorrow followed by a 'shackles off' performance at Southampton that sees us into a quarter final and then Moyes in by the weekend in time for a new-manager-bounce win at Spurs. Easy. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 First half Montero beat him and got a cross in every single time he tried. Hutton handled him better second half but then could barely kick a ball properly once in the oppositions 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gharperr Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 (edited) First half Montero beat him and got a cross in every single time he tried. First half. He tried 4 crosses and 2 was blocked (well they looked blocked). He tried one take on, and failed.https://gyazo.com/d295ceb651ded2a89c564620dac79ae3.png Edited October 25, 2015 by gharperr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted October 25, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted October 25, 2015 Useless manager and undoubtedly needs replacing but it matters not for this season we are going down . What it means is hopefully the new bloke can prepare the team, the club, the strategy to try and ensure we don't go down further next season and can sustain ourselves in the championship and try and come back a bit strongerDude, there's so much time to still get out of it. I really don't understand how you can think we're definitely gone already. Such a defeatist attitude, we will be fine. We will do enough to stay up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Useless manager and undoubtedly needs replacing but it matters not for this season we are going down . What it means is hopefully the new bloke can prepare the team, the club, the strategy to try and ensure we don't go down further next season and can sustain ourselves in the championship and try and come back a bit strongerDude, there's so much time to still get out of it. I really don't understand how you can think we're definitely gone already. Such a defeatist attitude, we will be fine. We will do enough to stay up. Haven't you heard? We're not just down, we're already consigned to 10+ years in the Championship. **** it we may as well just liquidate the club now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 First half Montero beat him and got a cross in every single time he tried. First half. He tried 4 crosses and 2 was blocked (well they looked blocked). He tried one take on, and failed.https://gyazo.com/d295ceb651ded2a89c564620dac79ae3.pngdid you watch the game or just go buy some statistical website? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One For The Road Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 (edited) Useless manager and undoubtedly needs replacing but it matters not for this season we are going down . What it means is hopefully the new bloke can prepare the team, the club, the strategy to try and ensure we don't go down further next season and can sustain ourselves in the championship and try and come back a bit strongerDude, there's so much time to still get out of it. I really don't understand how you can think we're definitely gone already. Such a defeatist attitude, we will be fine. We will do enough to stay up. Wih Tim? Or do you mean after he's gone? Cos surely us staying up requires him to be sacked this week or else it WILL be too late to save us. Edited October 25, 2015 by One For The Road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanky Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 I've got a feeling it won't make a great deal of difference, but the only thing we can do is change the manager. He has to go now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gharperr Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 (edited) First half Montero beat him and got a cross in every single time he tried. First half. He tried 4 crosses and 2 was blocked (well they looked blocked). He tried one take on, and failed.https://gyazo.com/d295ceb651ded2a89c564620dac79ae3.pngdid you watch the game or just go buy some statistical website?But you said "every single time he tried". Pretty funny saying "did you watch the game" whilst saying that sentence. Its ok to admit you was wrong. Theres no shame in it.He got 2 crosses out of 4. And beat him 0 on a take on. You changed the definition of "every single time" it appears Edited October 25, 2015 by gharperr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted October 25, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted October 25, 2015 (edited) Useless manager and undoubtedly needs replacing but it matters not for this season we are going down . What it means is hopefully the new bloke can prepare the team, the club, the strategy to try and ensure we don't go down further next season and can sustain ourselves in the championship and try and come back a bit strongerDude, there's so much time to still get out of it. I really don't understand how you can think we're definitely gone already. Such a defeatist attitude, we will be fine. We will do enough to stay up. Wih Tim? Or do you mean after he's gone? Cos surely us staying up requires him to be sacked this week or else it WILL be too late to save us.Oh once Tim has gone. I fully believe he will be gone by our next game. Edited October 25, 2015 by PieFacE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 It was the wrong phrase to use. But like I said did you watch the game? What's classed as a take on stat? Is it he beat him and ran last him or created another space to pass or cross the ball? Another example of just relying on stats being useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Just seen this from Collymore, Apologies if old news. Aston Villa Football ClubAfter 6 years of doing an official Aston Villa programme column, today I've been notified by the club that they no longer wish me to continue due to my support of Tim Sherwood and fierce criticism of the ownership and club structure.The club felt is essence that it would be inappropriate for me to write positively in a column whilst being critical on air or in a newspaper.The column I have written for 6 years was at no charge to Aston Villa, but the club kindly gave me 4 or 5 tickets a season for games. I've asked for two which the club kindly have given for the Swansea game.I am firstly a broadcaster, and a broadcaster who treats every club in the country the same. So if ownership is letting fans down, as proven last night on perhaps the only football show in the country which actually addresses issues rather than ignore them or pretend they don't exist, we debate them and criticise or praise where necessary.This has and always must be my objective as a broadcaster, to treat Aston Villa the same as any club. I do and I will.On the watch of Mr Lerner, and laterly Tom Fox as Chief Executive, and Paul Faulkner before him, the club I have supported since childhood have become the laughing stock of the Premier League. This, Englands 4th most successful football club.So do I pretend on sir everything is great? Or do I broadcast justifiable criticism alongside one of the best in the business, Mark Saggers, echoing the concerns of a huge fanbase, as they come to terms with a 6th year of complete and utter dross on the pitch, and ineptitude of the highest order off it?I met Tom Fox in the summer and said to his face that I wanted to do anything, anything to help my club moving forward. Get on a plane, train, in a car, watch players, report back, anything to help my club.A smile , a coffee and a patronising " we'll call you" cane and went. At the same time Aston Villa were employing a marketing man, that's a marketing man as Director of Football. And we wonder why we are in the mess we are in. Industry professionals ignored when offering help, a man who can put a glossy Arsenal pitch together made Director of Football at my club.The line is drawn now for me. It took an embarrassed Rob Bishop, programme editor and friend for over 18 years to tell me over the phone that my column had ended "for now", but in reality for good.I believe this treatment is symptomatic of how Villa fans generally are treated by the current owner , with disdain.I will now join fan groups and individuals actively looking to other potential owners to come in swiftly and hasten change at Aston Villa Football Club.Mr Lerner, Tom a Fox, the current Director of Football and technical staff are not fit for purpose. They all should go, now.As for Tim Sherwood, he gets my unequivocal support and should get the same from every Villa fan. He really could have had no idea what mess he was coming into or some of the najor decisions that he would have no hand in. An incredibly tough job.I'll walk into Villa Park soon with chest puffed out as a fan or broadcaster. It's my club and I was here before this current ownership, firstly in the Doug Ellis stand aged 6, then on the pitch aged 27, then in the broadcast booth aged 35. I'm going nowhere.Our great club will be back, but only with new ownership. So please Mr Lerner, instead of petty sackings of columnists who tell the truth about our club, please sell up and go. Stan Collymore. http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1snmi6a 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gharperr Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 (edited) It was the wrong phrase to use. But like I said did you watch the game? What's classed as a take on stat? Is it he beat him and ran last him or created another space to pass or cross the ball? Another example of just relying on stats being useless. yes i did watch the game. If i just said "no he never, i can remember a time he didnt get a cross in", you would have just ignored it. thats why i went to check first. Pretty silly how your first thought is "did you watch the game" instead of "oh, maybe i was wrong, let me rethink and come up with a counter argument, or let me check to see if that is correct". No need to go on the defensive straight away. Was just correcting your exaggeration of "every single time" so arguments for/against is reflected fairly. Carry on disucssing about hutton.... Edited October 25, 2015 by gharperr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 It's old news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 (edited) We dominated the play yesterday and were unlucky to lose. Sherwood was not the reason we lost. Edited October 25, 2015 by mikeyp102 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 We dominated the play yesterday and were unlucky to lose. Sherwood was not the reason we lost.Not at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted October 25, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted October 25, 2015 Untenable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 I really do fear that the board will stick with him for another few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_c Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 We dominated the play yesterday and were unlucky to lose. Sherwood was not the reason we lost.Are we establishing that months of training, tactics, team set up etc.. Has little to no effect on the results? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 I really do fear that the board will stick with him for another few weeks.Me too, and it'll be because nobody else is interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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