Marka Ragnos Posted October 9, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted October 9, 2015 Mirror running similar story to yesterday's Daily mail ..basically Sherwood wanted players from Spurs but instead had Amavi etc forced on him... Sadly, Sherwood has been labelled irredeemable, and no explanations will be seriously entertained. That said, if the story is true, it explains a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post lexicon Posted October 10, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2015 So that's why he was so quiet in the summer - he was sulking because we didn't let him spunk all that money up the wall on shite. Sack him now Villa, please for the love of everything that is holy. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gharperr Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 (edited) That mirror story looks like incredibly lazy journalism. Surprised quite a few are getting annoyed over it/buying it. Edited October 10, 2015 by gharperr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 It's fairly common knowledge that Tim:- Has mates in the media- Blames everyone else for his failingsSo it seems to add up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanO Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Farrrk me! I give up, this gobshite of a manager didn't want the players we signed?If it's true it would explain a lot about the shite he has dished up this season, crap selections, awful substitutions, sulking on the sidelines etc, etc.We are going down under this manager, even though imo the squad is the best we have had since MO'N left the club.Sack him now, even if it's BS because he isn't good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted October 10, 2015 Moderator Share Posted October 10, 2015 That mirror story looks like incredibly lazy journalism. Surprised quite a few are getting annoyed over it/buying it.Yeah I agree, I mean why would anyone believe a story about Sherwood blaming other people.... oh hang on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TrentVilla Posted October 10, 2015 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2015 (edited) Mirror running similar story to yesterday's Daily mail ..basically Sherwood wanted players from Spurs but instead had Amavi etc forced on him... Sadly, Sherwood has been labelled irredeemable, and no explanations will be seriously entertained. That said, if the story is true, it explains a lot.I'm struggling to understand how even if he didn't get the targets he wanted this summer it excuses his performance as manager this season. The choice of players in the summer aren't an explanation for his frankly idiotic team selection policy or the decisions he is making in games.If people were being critical of him for the players he signed and this turned out to be true then you'd have a point, only that isn't the thing people are critical of him for. If anything the accusation is due to him we are less than the sum of our parts.And frankly given the absolute horlicks of a job he is doing on matchdays I think if the article is accurate I'll actually be glad he wasn't given free reign on transfers. As it is it looks like nothing more than an attempt by Sherwood to do one of two things, buy more time with the fans or shift the blame from himself to the club to save his reputation. Either way I don't think it will work and its just another potential example of his absolute refusal to ever actually take responsibility.Maybe he should be called Teflon Tim rather than Tactics Tim, even as an ironic nickname using the word tactics in reference to Sherwood doesn't sit well. Edited October 10, 2015 by TrentVilla 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted October 10, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted October 10, 2015 Mirror running similar story to yesterday's Daily mail ..basically Sherwood wanted players from Spurs but instead had Amavi etc forced on him... Sadly, Sherwood has been labelled irredeemable, and no explanations will be seriously entertained. That said, if the story is true, it explains a lot.I'm struggling to understand how even if he didn't get the targets he wanted this summer it excuses his performance as manager this season. The choice of players in the summer aren't an explanation for his frankly idiotic team selection policy or the decisions he is making in games.If people were being critical of him for the players he signed and this turned out to be true then you'd have a point, only that isn't the thing people are critical of him for. If anything the accusation is due to him we are less than the sum of our parts.And frankly given the absolute horlicks of a job he is doing on matchdays I think if the article is accurate I'll actually be glad he wasn't given free reign on transfers. I think you're confusing my idea of "explanation" with "excuse-making." Weren't most of us making the assumption that Tim had a big role in the summer signings? Are you disputing that? I don't recall many comments voicing the possibility that he never had much control. If that was indeed the case, it would partially explain his failure to grasp his own players' strengths and weaknesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 I thought Tim said he had the final say on the summer signings?The excuses are coming in thick and fast (none of which are his fault) and he appears to be a deadman walking 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Well if this is all true, and it does whiff of truth, it means Fox will push the button sooner rather than later. I am glad that the club are finally choosing the players and not the egotistical manager. Could be we see someone a bit continental coming in to replace him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post djdabush Posted October 10, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2015 The Birmingham Mail had quotes the other day from Sherwood pretty much confirming that the signings were not his. It's a surprise really, I mean who would have thought that he does not have an extensive knowledge of Europe's young players? Tim said himself that he'd been following these players for a long time and that he had final say on the transfers. Not like he's the sort of person to lie or anything. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted October 10, 2015 Moderator Share Posted October 10, 2015 Mirror running similar story to yesterday's Daily mail ..basically Sherwood wanted players from Spurs but instead had Amavi etc forced on him... Sadly, Sherwood has been labelled irredeemable, and no explanations will be seriously entertained. That said, if the story is true, it explains a lot.I'm struggling to understand how even if he didn't get the targets he wanted this summer it excuses his performance as manager this season. The choice of players in the summer aren't an explanation for his frankly idiotic team selection policy or the decisions he is making in games.If people were being critical of him for the players he signed and this turned out to be true then you'd have a point, only that isn't the thing people are critical of him for. If anything the accusation is due to him we are less than the sum of our parts.And frankly given the absolute horlicks of a job he is doing on matchdays I think if the article is accurate I'll actually be glad he wasn't given free reign on transfers. I think you're confusing my idea of "explanation" with "excuse-making." Weren't most of us making the assumption that Tim had a big role in the summer signings? Are you disputing that? I don't recall many comments voicing the possibility that he never had much control. If that was indeed the case, it would partially explain his failure to grasp his own players' strengths and weaknesses. I think you are confusing my cynicism of Sherwood for confusion.irrespective of if he had control of signings or not I don't think that in any way explanins the selections or tactical decisions he has made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 I thought Tim said he had the final say on the summer signings?The excuses are coming in thick and fast (none of which are his fault) and he appears to be a deadman walking What Tim says one week is different to the next.We'll be hearing that Doris is to blame next. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie09 Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 I think Sherwood just has to go for it now, 4-2-3-1Guzan,Hutton,Richards,Clark,Amavi,Gana,Sanchez,Gil,Traore,Grealish,Ayew and see what happens. Change Sanchez for Veretout after 60 mins when he is blowing out his arse and maybe bring Gestede on for the last 15 if he needs to change the game and get the ball in the middle. I dont think we have a better option.I agree with the first 7 words of your post 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelVilla Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Just sack him now. Its getting embarrassing for the club and us fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 The funny thing is, the summer signings were one area we gave him genuine credit for. And now that's gone as well Most presumed he would go for overpriced tat from Spurs and were delighted that wasn't the case, it seems that would probably have been the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Can only hope the reason he hasn't gone yet is that we are sourcing a replacement. Don't think it was any coincidence we saw Tim at Villa Park when Lambert was still in the job. Since we can't have Sam, let's have someone French. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 If we all keep posting the same things over and over, will that expedite his sacking!? I'm just wondering if that's what's being aimed for.IMO nothing will happen until the away following turns, and/or when the "**** off Sherwood...the Villa is ours" chants break out at VP. I think either the Swansea or Spurs match will be the end of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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