Woodytom Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Ppl who turn their nose up at ppl like Sam and pulis.I can think of two managers with an equally poor brand of football. If not worse. That's Paul lambert and Tim sherwood.We might as well be utterly dour to watch and comfortably survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 The nickname `tactics Tim'; is that because he put too much emphasis on tactics? He seems to me to be over-thinking line ups and subs.I think its because he didn't actually show any tactics and just went gung-ho. I may be wrong though.Was originally meant in an affectionate way at Spurs but has stuck as a derisory, mocking label.Thanks, guys. That's interesting. And I am obviously wrong to think he is over-thinking things. Have to find another theory now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 For me he really needs to prove himself. He talks as though he is on top of the world and in control, although recently, you can see he has realised its tough at the very top. Personally for me last season he kept us up because he got Benteke firing, an my belief is there isn't a manager in the Premier league (apart from Lambert ofcourse) who couldn't have kept us up with a on fire striker. It was more than obvious Benteke was back to full fitness and promised his big move if he performed, so I doubt Tim had the hardest job with him.So in reality did Tim really have a tough job in keeping us up, because I know without Benteke he wouldn't have had a f****** clue. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Woodytom Posted September 28, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2015 No not really at all. Dunno why people keep making out he saved us from oblivion. We really weren't cut adrift, had a top notch striker and only just managed it.He went into a job where at that moment nobody could do any worse and 7/8 months later he's now becoming that man that nobody could do much worse than.He really hasn't got a clue. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancvillan Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Is the shirt too much pressure for these lads? No Well evidnace suggests that losing mentality has started creeping back in, as we are still pants at home I want Villa Park to be a fortress agin, its been like a play ground for a while now That's nothing to do with the pressure of the shirt. I can't imagine any of our players are weighed down by the pressure of playing for Aston Villa. They feel pressure I'm sure, but it's no greater for us than it would be for any other club. I think playing at Villa Park does come with a certain pressure that other smaller clubs don’t experience. Despite having battled relegation for the last 5 seasons we are still a pretty demanding and expectant bunch and I love that about us as fans but it does have its downside. We can be drawing with any side outside of the top 6 or 7 with 5 minutes to go and the crowd won’t accept us playing for a draw they will want us to go for the win. I say this as someone who has hardly missed a home game in knocking on 30 years and I am as bad as anyone for encouraging us to go forward. Also quite often if we go a goal down impatience and anxiety sets in amongst the fans almost instantly and if the first half doesn't go too well, even if we are not losing, then there are often boos. I think Newcastle suffer from similar in that there is an expectancy level that is way beyond the capability of some of the players and they can’t handle it. But I wonder where that heightened level of expectancy comes from? Oh yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 (edited) Did worse than Advocat at Sunderland with arguably a better squad. Advocat came in later and with I would argue some harder fixtures too.Agree with many on here that Sherwood isn't a tactician, and relies on motivation which works well in the short term but becomes less effective over time. Edited September 28, 2015 by mykeyb Syntax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arj Guy Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 The club should be ashamed of that picture. **** joke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted September 28, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted September 28, 2015 No not really at all. Dunno why people keep making out he saved us from oblivion. I don't think that. I don't know who does. He injected a measure of enthusiasm and coaxed some goals out of Tekkers, who still strikes me as a player who has peaked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post briny_ear Posted September 28, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2015 So, 5 matches into the season, new manager is a failure, so sack him and then...er...what? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 he's probably more of a coach than a manager, but we have Ray Wilkins also who you'd of thought would be able to provide the missing experience.I'm not happy with what he is doing now, but he played a big part in bringing some potentially very good players to the club and to some degree he kept us in the league last season, it wasn't all about Benteke even if the coincidental return to match fitness and match sharpness cannot be understated, Sherwood managed to get a number of players playing well and passing/running beyond the halfway line. I don't want to ignore that fact even if i can't properly quantify his impact, or really endorse his contribution so far this season.what seems baffling is if he set us up to play the way he did last season with the new set of players you'd think we'd have a better chance of winning! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Our PR team have done themselves no favours amongst the core fans, some of our ridiculous quoted haunt me.But to be fair, I don't see them as targeted at us. I think they're trying to capture the imaginations of new fans. It probably has worked for some of those, but being one they couldn't pull the wool over...it makes for bad reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macandally Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Go for Klopp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Did worse than Advocat at Sunderland with arguably a better squad. Advocat came in later and with I would argue some harder fixtures too.Agree with many on here that Sherwood isn't a tactician, and relies on motivation which works well in the short term but becomes less effective over time.I would disagree that Advocaat has done a better job, 4 wins in nearly 20 games and looking really hopeless compared to Tim 10 in 25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macandally Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 I have just read his Manager on Monday piece and he is fundamentally blaming the players saying they are not gelling. Try formulating a way to play, a style of play then picking a settled side for a few weeks with the same formation instead of pissing about. That might give them a chance to Gel!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 No not really at all. Dunno why people keep making out he saved us from oblivion. I don't think that. I don't know who does. He injected a measure of enthusiasm and coaxed some goals out of Tekkers, who still strikes me as a player who has peaked.We basically stayed up because Hull failed to beat BurnleyWe were complete dog shit at the end of the season and relied on other teams results towards the end to get us over the lineUs staying up was anything but convincing we seem to have carried on from last season results wise 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 No not really at all. Dunno why people keep making out he saved us from oblivion. I don't think that. I don't know who does. He injected a measure of enthusiasm and coaxed some goals out of Tekkers, who still strikes me as a player who has peaked.We basically stayed up because Hull failed to beat BurnleyWe were complete dog shit at the end of the season and relied on other teams results towards the end to get us over the lineUs staying up was anything but convincing we seem to have carried on from last season results wiseyep after 38 games the only reason we stayed up was because Hull didnt beat Burnley 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 So, 5 matches into the season, new manager is a failure, so sack him and then...er...what? 5 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackpotForeigner Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 For me he really needs to prove himself. He talks as though he is on top of the world and in control, although recently, you can see he has realised its tough at the very top. Personally for me last season he kept us up because he got Benteke firing, an my belief is there isn't a manager in the Premier league (apart from Lambert ofcourse) who couldn't have kept us up with a on fire striker. It was more than obvious Benteke was back to full fitness and promised his big move if he performed, so I doubt Tim had the hardest job with him.So in reality did Tim really have a tough job in keeping us up, because I know without Benteke he wouldn't have had a f****** clue.Benteke himself has said that his form was improving anyway, although he did add "Yeah he helped me a lot, but...". I don't think anyone was surprised that Benteke started scoring goals when he did. My guess is the manager didn't have that much to do with it. I think we probably would still have gone down if Lambert had stayed, but right now it\s looking as though he was possibly the better long term option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Bring John Gregory back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted September 28, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted September 28, 2015 Go for Klopp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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