villanwesty88 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 I think we should look to the academy first. How many talents have we let slip in recent years? I mean even Hogg would be a solid player in our XI and Daniel Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted October 19, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted October 19, 2016 1 minute ago, villanwesty88 said: I think we should look to the academy first. How many talents have we let slip in recent years? I mean even Hogg would be a solid player in our XI and Daniel Johnson. Far too simplistic! To thrive youngsters need time and patience to fully develop. Do you think either would have got it here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villanwesty88 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 1 minute ago, Nigel said: Far too simplistic! To thrive youngsters need time and patience to fully develop. Do you think either would have got it here? If we don't change manager every 5 minutes and stop splashing massive amounts of £ then why not? These guys can go and get good loan spells under their belts. The key is not to release them too early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted October 19, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted October 19, 2016 1 minute ago, villanwesty88 said: If we don't change manager every 5 minutes and stop splashing massive amounts of £ then why not? These guys can go and get good loan spells under their belts. The key is not to release them too early. We tried the not splashing cash thing.....dont want to see that again! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villanwesty88 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Just now, Nigel said: We tried the not splashing cash thing.....dont want to see that again! Massive amounts I said. I mean buying players every single time. Without a few gaps in the squad the youth will never come through. We also tried splashing cash on various players last year and they came with a host of problems - high wages, culture shock, different style of play, homesickness etc - also not being up to the challenge. It's a balance for me but there have to be opportunities and development plans for youth players to get into the first team more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratvillan Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 19 hours ago, The Fun Factory said: Playing Gestede as a winger like Ian Ormondroyd? Ian Ormondroyd - he lived by me in Sutton -saw him throw a ball up in the air and try to kick it for his dog - he missed it! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn1982 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 On 16/10/2016 at 22:35, dn1982 said: Gardner performed in this league last season so he can do it at this level. Seeing as we don't have many other options he deserves a chance especially in a 3. It seems I wasn't too far off!! He still has loads to prove but we tend to write players off way too soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 8 hours ago, PaulTheVillan said: I reckon Bruce will go in for Colback at Hull I dont think Newcastle would like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 8 hours ago, PaulTheVillan said: I reckon Bruce will go in for Colback at Hull I dont think Newcastle would like that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 (edited) double post Edited October 19, 2016 by Zatman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Problem? What Problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 ...has improved with the addition of Bacuna to the fold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilS Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 I was going to suggest playing Bacuna in midfield last week, but stopped myself as I was hit with the dilema that it meant either Hutton or Richards at RB. I guess Midfield must take priority though, so Bacuna should get an extended run in the midfield now with Hutton at RB. Hopefully with the better midfield our defence won't be as exposed. Then in January we must bring in re-inforcements in midfield and RB areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted October 20, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted October 20, 2016 11 hours ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: ...has improved with the addition of Bacuna to the fold. A Gardner playing ti his potential would be a massive boost too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 We basically have to pick 3 from: Jedinak Tshibola Gardner Westwood Bacuna Lyden I genuinely have no idea which 3 I'd pick. I mean, I think Bacuna is shit but he was our best player the other night so what the hell do I know. It's got to the point where I'm so bored of criticising the team selection that I just roll with it now. I'll support whoever plays in there because even when the manager picks the players I like, we lose. FWIW, I think our midfield will be the reason we don't make the play-offs. (unless we sign quality in Jan). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carewjust4u Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 The real question is Gardener or Westwood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 8 minutes ago, carewjust4u said: The real question is Gardener or Westwood? Who is this Gardener you speak of? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadoftrinity Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 7 minutes ago, carewjust4u said: The real question is Gardener or Westwood? Gardner, unfortunately I think Westwood has the losing mentality that we have had over the past few year, Gardner should be told he has a run of 5 games to show what he can do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 1 hour ago, NeilS said: I was going to suggest playing Bacuna in midfield last week, but stopped myself as I was hit with the dilema that it meant either Hutton or Richards at RB. I guess Midfield must take priority though, so Bacuna should get an extended run in the midfield now with Hutton at RB. Hopefully with the better midfield our defence won't be as exposed. Then in January we must bring in re-inforcements in midfield and RB areas. There are already at least 4 right backs in the team. Hutton, Richards, de Laet and Bacuna. All of them are, or should be, good enough for a top team in the Championship, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilS Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Just now, momo said: There are already at least 4 right backs in the team. Hutton, Richards, de Laet and Bacuna. All of them are, or should be, good enough for a top team in the Championship, imo. I guess if we bought a midfielder in January then Bacuna could revert back to RB. I personally don't want Richards anywhere near the first team, and same goes for Hutton as well, I feel they de-stabilise the whole back four with their awful positioning. De Laet is out for the season so I wasn't counting him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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