Czechlad Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 We have gotten better defensively, that I have noticed, but offensively we seem to have regressed. I don't want to go into a match against Burnley worrying we may not score, let alone even create a serious chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanky Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 I don't buy this injuries stuff. I think we'd churn out the same poor performances with a full strength side. Stoke at home last year springs to mind, fairly sure we were near full strength then (well we certainly had Benteke). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 I don't buy this injuries stuff. I think we'd churn out the same poor performances with a full strength side. Stoke at home last year springs to mind, fairly sure we were near full strength then (well we certainly had Benteke). Nobody's saying that we'd always play fine with a fully fit side, but it's pretty hard to deny that they have an effect. It doesn't excuse anything of course, but Lambert really has had shitty injury luck. To be honest, we've been having shit injury luck since O'Neill left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Is this real? Are we really taht bad I knew we were bad, but not that bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 What's remarkable about those stats is the fact that we're 16th in the league, not 20th! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Secondly why spend 8 or 9M sacking and recruiting when he is averse to spending any money (I was told last night it would be nearer 12M by the way but hey ho) If we've put something in place that means it costs £12 million to sack Lambert then we are utter idiots. I don't believe it because surely that would put off potential buyers for the club. Is this real? Are we really taht bad I knew we were bad, but not that bad Afraid we are. You can also add 20th for possession and 20th for passes made per game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 16th in the league though I'm not defending lambert but I'm bored to death of what are actually pretty meaningless stats being rolled out by all and sundry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 I hope Lambert is sacked regardless of the result vs Burnley to be honest. Lerner must be fed up after supporting the manager with £46m since he's been here (more than 11 teams in the league) and what we have to show for it as a dire, defensive, boring team. The excuses have ran out for Lambert - today with Keane leaving is just one in a long line of bad decisions Lambert has made. Is that bit about the money true? Are you saying he has had £46 million to spend (net?) since he's been here? That spread out over the 5 windows so far, is £9.2m per window. And your saying that's more than 11 teams in the league over the same period? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) Christ now the performance against Spurs was now superb, talk about some people having an agenda. This comment sums up the problem with this thread. Take the comment about how we were playing superb against Spurs prior to the sending off. Realise that statement doesn't fit your biased view. So change the statement to be the whole 2-1 loss against Spurs as being described as superb, boom nobody cares if anyone actually said it. People believe someone said it because you attributed it to someone as their "agenda". Sometimes I'm amazed at the things people post. But really, a football forum is by and large the last place for anything sensible or reasoned to be posted. The idea of debate is utterly impossible. It was me who originally expressed disbelief at your comment about us being superb ....and even if you thought we were superb for two minutes I stand by all I said. You have referred to it more than once in patronising,derogatory and, frankly,misleading terms..and you are now doing the same with so done else. I am not part of a mob, I don't have an agenda. For about 90 odd games I have been pro Lambert, if its OK with you I have had enough I think his position here is farcical and I am utterly baffled why people still want him, but fair enough. What I didn't like was the rewriting of history ...the spurs game. That's all. Nothing whatsoever to do with twisting anything. I have actually read very very little indeed on this thread that does not constitute a debate. Edited November 28, 2014 by terrytini 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 16th in the league though I'm not defending lambert but I'm bored to death of what are actually pretty meaningless stats being rolled out by all and sundry I don't think they're meaningless, they show why we've picked up 2 points in 8 games. It also shows the same issues we had last year and shows the lack of progress. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 16th in the league though I'm not defending lambert but I'm bored to death of what are actually pretty meaningless stats being rolled out by all and sundry You really think those stats, as a whole, are meaningless? They have no relevance at all ? I don't like it when people look at one game and complain not enough shots or possession...but after this many games, so many '20ths' ? I don't see how you can say they are without any meaning. We'd surely all give anything to be first in all those categories....you can bet they would have meaning then !! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 16th in the league though I'm not defending lambert but I'm bored to death of what are actually pretty meaningless stats being rolled out by all and sundry I don't think they're meaningless, they show why we've picked up 2 points in 8 games. It also shows the same issues we had last year and shows the lack of progress. Whats this progress turd? You do realise when any company is actually placed on the market for sale, its a keeping the lights on business. You mightn't want to face that but thats the reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 The picture says it all Brilliant manager 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 How anyone can say those stats are meaningless is beyond me. Maybe some of them but chances created and goals scored especially are clearly not as over the course of the season that's what's going to win you games. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 16th in the league though I'm not defending lambert but I'm bored to death of what are actually pretty meaningless stats being rolled out by all and sundry I don't think they're meaningless, they show why we've picked up 2 points in 8 games. It also shows the same issues we had last year and shows the lack of progress. Whats this progress turd? You do realise when any company is actually placed on the market for sale, its a keeping the lights on business. You mightn't want to face that but thats the reality. So we're not meant to get any better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 I thought he was supposed to be our best manager ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 I hope Lambert is sacked regardless of the result vs Burnley to be honest. Lerner must be fed up after supporting the manager with £46m since he's been here (more than 11 teams in the league) and what we have to show for it as a dire, defensive, boring team. The excuses have ran out for Lambert - today with Keane leaving is just one in a long line of bad decisions Lambert has made. Is that bit about the money true? Are you saying he has had £46 million to spend (net?) since he's been here? That spread out over the 5 windows so far, is £9.2m per window. And your saying that's more than 11 teams in the league over the same period? Yes £46m net since he has been here. Just happens to be considerably more than the following teams across the same period: 1) Burnley: -£2.3m 2 ) Palace: £18.5m 3) Leicester: £14.2m 4) Newcastle: £19.4m 5) Southampton: £33.8m 6) Stoke: £23.5m 7) Sunderland: £37.6m 8) Swansea: £11.7m 9) Spurs: -£3.4m 10) West Brom: £15.4m 11) Everton: £18.2m Yes, he has been working under wage restrictions (as a number of other teams have been) but on transfers on a net basis only 8 teams in the current premier league have spent more. What a shambles he has made of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 16th in the league though I'm not defending lambert but I'm bored to death of what are actually pretty meaningless stats being rolled out by all and sundryI don't think they're meaningless, they show why we've picked up 2 points in 8 games. It also shows the same issues we had last year and shows the lack of progress.Whats this progress turd? You do realise when any company is actually placed on the market for sale, its a keeping the lights on business. You mightn't want to face that but thats the reality. So we're not meant to get any better? Honestly, no, not until we are sold or Lerner decides to have another go and takes us off the market. Lerner is more than happy to let us play negative shocking football as it keeps us in the premiership. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 He ought to be put out of his misery.....it's cruel. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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