CrackpotForeigner Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Is 2014 Lowton better than 2011 Hutton? Yes Is 2014 Vlaar better than 2011 Dunne? Yes Is 2014 Baker better than 2011 Collins? About the same Is 2014 Cissokho better than 2011 Warnock? Yes Is 2014 Nzogbia better than 2011 Nzogbia? No Is 2014 Sanchez better than 2011 Herd? Yes Is 2014 Westwood better than 2011 Petrov? No Is 2014 Cleverley better than 2011 Heskey? At scoring goals? No Is 2014 Agbonlahor better than 2011 Agbonlahor? No Is 2014 Weimann better than 2011 Bent? No f in way. On the bench... Is 2014 Given better than 2011 Guzan? No Is 2014 Bacuna better than 2011 Jenas?No Is 2014 Bent better than 2011 Ireland? No Is 2014 Senderos better than 2011 Cuellar? Yes Is 2014 Clark better than 2011 Clark? They're about the same Is 2014 Richardson better than 2011 Albrighton? No Is 2014 Cole better than 2011 Delph? No So I make it slightly better in defence, and a pale shadow in attack. And I bet you thought mcleish wasn't doing well enough. Didn't we all? McLeish's team played like Lambert's, except that McLeish's team had a younger Gabby, a Darren Bent who was more or less on fire, Petrov to provide creativity, and a pre-injury N'Zogbia who had been brilliant in his previous season. Lambert has none of these, and we still demand to see an attacking behemoth of a side?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Is 2014 Lowton better than 2011 Hutton? Yes Is 2014 Vlaar better than 2011 Dunne? Yes Is 2014 Baker better than 2011 Collins? About the same Is 2014 Cissokho better than 2011 Warnock? Yes Is 2014 Nzogbia better than 2011 Nzogbia? No Is 2014 Sanchez better than 2011 Herd? Yes Is 2014 Westwood better than 2011 Petrov? No Is 2014 Cleverley better than 2011 Heskey? At scoring goals? No Is 2014 Agbonlahor better than 2011 Agbonlahor? No Is 2014 Weimann better than 2011 Bent? No f in way. On the bench... Is 2014 Given better than 2011 Guzan? No Is 2014 Bacuna better than 2011 Jenas?No Is 2014 Bent better than 2011 Ireland? No Is 2014 Senderos better than 2011 Cuellar? Yes Is 2014 Clark better than 2011 Clark? They're about the same Is 2014 Richardson better than 2011 Albrighton? No Is 2014 Cole better than 2011 Delph? No So I make it slightly better in defence, and a pale shadow in attack. And I bet you thought mcleish wasn't doing well enough. Didn't we all? McLeish's team played like Lambert's, except that McLeish's team had a younger Gabby, a Darren Bent who was more or less on fire, Petrov to provide creativity, and a pre-injury N'Zogbia who had been brilliant in his previous season. Lambert has none of these, and we still demand to see an attacking behemoth of a side?! Do we? Or do we just expect a team that doesn't lose 50% of the time and can score more than 4 goals in 11 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 One of the things that strikes me the most of Lambert's tenure is that the vast majority of the players have not improved. This is not down to money, but down to coaching and management. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 The players are still playing for the manager and are giving it their all, we needed a result today and we got it and for once we had a few lucky breaks. We have played good in our last 3 games despite all the pressure and the bad run and have been unlucky to of not picked up more than 1 point, anybody think different?. Yes, we didn't play well today or against QPR. To claim they are both good performances is a bit much. Today we defended well and got a bit lucky that they were off form upfront and against QPR we kept the ball better and did absolutely nothing with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunnski Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Is 2014 Lowton better than 2011 Hutton? Yes Is 2014 Vlaar better than 2011 Dunne? Yes Is 2014 Baker better than 2011 Collins? About the same Is 2014 Cissokho better than 2011 Warnock? Yes Is 2014 Nzogbia better than 2011 Nzogbia? No Is 2014 Sanchez better than 2011 Herd? Yes Is 2014 Westwood better than 2011 Petrov? No Is 2014 Cleverley better than 2011 Heskey? At scoring goals? No Is 2014 Agbonlahor better than 2011 Agbonlahor? No Is 2014 Weimann better than 2011 Bent? No f in way. On the bench... Is 2014 Given better than 2011 Guzan? No Is 2014 Bacuna better than 2011 Jenas?No Is 2014 Bent better than 2011 Ireland? No Is 2014 Senderos better than 2011 Cuellar? Yes Is 2014 Clark better than 2011 Clark? They're about the same Is 2014 Richardson better than 2011 Albrighton? No Is 2014 Cole better than 2011 Delph? No So I make it slightly better in defence, and a pale shadow in attack. And I bet you thought mcleish wasn't doing well enough. Didn't we all? McLeish's team played like Lambert's, except that McLeish's team had a younger Gabby, a Darren Bent who was more or less on fire, Petrov to provide creativity, and a pre-injury N'Zogbia who had been brilliant in his previous season. Lambert has none of these, and we still demand to see an attacking behemoth of a side?! Do we? Or do we just expect a team that doesn't lose 50% of the time and can score more than 4 goals in 11 games. Quick question for you. Name the 2 strikers that Paul Lambert has spent decent money on and then go figure the rest out for yourself? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 The players are still playing for the manager and are giving it their all, we needed a result today and we got it and for once we had a few lucky breaks. We have played good in our last 3 games despite all the pressure and the bad run and have been unlucky to of not picked up more than 1 point, anybody think different?. Yes, we didn't play well today or against QPR. To claim they are both good performances is a bit much. Today we defended well and got a bit lucky that they were off form upfront and against QPR we kept the ball better and did absolutely nothing with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackpotForeigner Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 One of the things that strikes me the most of Lambert's tenure is that the vast majority of the players have not improved. This is not down to money, but down to coaching and management. Now THIS is arguably a fair criticism, although some have improved (Baker, Delph), and who really knows what effect coaching and management have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradarmstrong_ Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 That was absolutely dreadful. What have Grealish and Okore got to do to get a chance in this shit team. No passion from Lambert. Slumped in his chair all game probably wondering how he's still in this job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Is 2014 Lowton better than 2011 Hutton? Yes Is 2014 Vlaar better than 2011 Dunne? Yes Is 2014 Baker better than 2011 Collins? About the same Is 2014 Cissokho better than 2011 Warnock? Yes Is 2014 Nzogbia better than 2011 Nzogbia? No Is 2014 Sanchez better than 2011 Herd? Yes Is 2014 Westwood better than 2011 Petrov? No Is 2014 Cleverley better than 2011 Heskey? At scoring goals? No Is 2014 Agbonlahor better than 2011 Agbonlahor? No Is 2014 Weimann better than 2011 Bent? No f in way. On the bench... Is 2014 Given better than 2011 Guzan? No Is 2014 Bacuna better than 2011 Jenas?No Is 2014 Bent better than 2011 Ireland? No Is 2014 Senderos better than 2011 Cuellar? Yes Is 2014 Clark better than 2011 Clark? They're about the same Is 2014 Richardson better than 2011 Albrighton? No Is 2014 Cole better than 2011 Delph? No So I make it slightly better in defence, and a pale shadow in attack. And I bet you thought mcleish wasn't doing well enough. Didn't we all? McLeish's team played like Lambert's, except that McLeish's team had a younger Gabby, a Darren Bent who was more or less on fire, Petrov to provide creativity, and a pre-injury N'Zogbia who had been brilliant in his previous season. Lambert has none of these, and we still demand to see an attacking behemoth of a side?! Do we? Or do we just expect a team that doesn't lose 50% of the time and can score more than 4 goals in 11 games. Quick question for you. Name the 2 strikers that Paul Lambert has spent decent money on and then go figure the rest out for yourself? 91 goals in 87 premier league games. What's your excuse for the whole of his time here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I am saddened that some of our fellow supporters will rather Villa lose to justify an agenda. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Didn't we all? McLeish's team played like Lambert's, except that McLeish's team had a younger Gabby, a Darren Bent who was more or less on fire, Petrov to provide creativity, and a pre-injury N'Zogbia who had been brilliant in his previous season. Lambert has none of these, and we still demand to see an attacking behemoth of a side?! No we don't. We expect to see a team that can make some decent chances and score more than one every 270 minutes though 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunnski Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 The players are still playing for the manager and are giving it their all, we needed a result today and we got it and for once we had a few lucky breaks. We have played good in our last 3 games despite all the pressure and the bad run and have been unlucky to of not picked up more than 1 point, anybody think different?. Yes, we didn't play well today or against QPR. To claim they are both good performances is a bit much. Today we defended well and got a bit lucky that they were off form upfront and against QPR we kept the ball better and did absolutely nothing with it. We did play well today, we deserved the point and had some decent chances, with better attacking options we would of caused alot more danger for West Ham. We did play well vs QPR, we were all over them in the first half and they just got the the breaks in that game and came away with a nearly 100% goals to chances conversion rate. You probably spent more time in the match thread moaning than actually watching and analysing the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 (edited) The players are still playing for the manager and are giving it their all, we needed a result today and we got it and for once we had a few lucky breaks. We have played good in our last 3 games despite all the pressure and the bad run and have been unlucky to of not picked up more than 1 point, anybody think different?. Yes, we didn't play well today or against QPR. To claim they are both good performances is a bit much. Today we defended well and got a bit lucky that they were off form upfront and against QPR we kept the ball better and did absolutely nothing with it. We did play well today, we deserved the point and had some decent chances, with better attacking options we would of caused alot more danger for West Ham. We did play well vs QPR, we were all over them in the first half and they just got the the breaks in that game and came away with a nearly 100% goals to chances conversion rate. You probably spent more time in the match thread moaning than actually watching and analysing the game. What decent chances did we have today? And were they better than the chances sakho, downing, carrol and jenkinson had? If your analysis of the last 3 games is that we were good in all of them then yes i probably am doing something different. Edited November 8, 2014 by DCJonah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 This incumbent will stay in the job for the duration of Lerners Stay as a caller to Talk sport said and i happen to agree with him....the 4 year deal was done for loyalty in staying.. whilst Lerner is recouping his lost money. its all a engineered strategy to deceive us and Piss on our chips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I am saddened that some of our fellow supporters will rather Villa lose to justify an agenda. Who are they? I doubt anyone really feels that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 (edited) Today went just as i expected it would go Yet more dire negative football out of the McLeish handbook not adventurous in the slightest We treated West Ham like they were the second coming of Barcelona I heard us described on the radio as a tired old tortoise that sits in it shell for 90 minutes that sticks its head out every now and again to forage for food Couldn't sum us up under Lambert any more perfectly The bloke needs to go a new lease of life is needed i struggle to think of any manager that could do worse its quite obvious the players look disinterested demotivated and are just going through the motions new impetus is needed Edited November 8, 2014 by AshVilla 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 For me another game that shows there has been no progress from where we were 3 years ago. Of course there hasn't been any progress. We've had hardly any money to spend, and what we have spent has gone on players who have been injured a lot of the time. It doesn't matter how loudly you demand a silk purse or how many times you point out that you don't have a silk purse if the raw materials are limited to a sow's ear. So what's the point of his appointment and keeping him if we don't expect improvement from a manager we wanted rid of? Many managers don't get lots of millions to spend but still improve the players/team. Lambert seems incapable of improving players/team. Some of the players have improved In his time here. You are right about the team as a whole though. I think he needs better coaching around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunnski Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 The players are still playing for the manager and are giving it their all, we needed a result today and we got it and for once we had a few lucky breaks. We have played good in our last 3 games despite all the pressure and the bad run and have been unlucky to of not picked up more than 1 point, anybody think different?. Yes, we didn't play well today or against QPR. To claim they are both good performances is a bit much. Today we defended well and got a bit lucky that they were off form upfront and against QPR we kept the ball better and did absolutely nothing with it. We did play well today, we deserved the point and had some decent chances, with better attacking options we would of caused alot more danger for West Ham. We did play well vs QPR, we were all over them in the first half and they just got the the breaks in that game and came away with a nearly 100% goals to chances conversion rate. You probably spent more time in the match thread moaning than actually watching and analysing the game. What decent chances did we have today? And were they better than the chances sakho, downing, carrol and jenkinson had? If your analysis of the last 3 games is that we were good in all of them then yes i probably am doing something different. Weimann had a shot from the peno spot that pulled a good save out of Adrian, Gabby blasted over from close range. Thats 2 decent chances. What has West Hams chances got to do with anything? Did I say we had more or better chances than them? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Weimann had a shot from the peno spot that pulled a good save out of Adrian, Gabby blasted over from close range. Thats 2 decent chances. and is that really acceptable? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Weimann had a shot from the peno spot that pulled a good save out of Adrian, Gabby blasted over from close range. Thats 2 decent chances. and is that really acceptable? Not only is that now seen as acceptable it's classed as a good performance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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