P3te Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 For the sake of Crackpot's post... since west ham we're in the league the year mcleish was our manager, the corresponding fixture was against Norwich so... Is 2014 Guzan better than 2011 Given? Yes Is 2014 Lowton better than 2011 Hutton? No, but Hutton is still at Villa Is 2014 Vlaar better than 2011 Dunne? Yes Is 2014 Baker better than 2011 Collins? No, buy 2014 Senderos is Is 2014 Cissokho better than 2011 Warnock? Yes Is 2014 Nzogbia better than 2011 Nzogbia? They're about the same Is 2014 Sanchez better than 2011 Herd? Yes Is 2014 Westwood better than 2011 Petrov? No Is 2014 Cleverley better than 2011 Heskey? Yes Is 2014 Agbonlahor better than 2011 Agbonlahor? They're about the same Is 2014 Weimann better than 2011 Bent? They're about the same On the bench... Is 2014 Given better than 2011 Guzan? No Is 2014 Bacuna better than 2011 Jenas? Yes Is 2014 Bent better than 2011 Ireland? No Is 2014 Senderos better than 2011 Cuellar? Yes Is 2014 Clark better than 2011 Clark? They're about the same Is 2014 Richardson better than 2011 Albrighton? No Is 2014 Cole better than 2011 Delph? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Bent for wiemann today at around 60, just for a change. OoH but I forgot, Lambert is fighting for his job so cannot afford to field a second half with attacking intent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nik986 Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 For the sake of Crackpot's post... since west ham we're in the league the year mcleish was our manager, the corresponding fixture was against Norwich so... Is 2014 Guzan better than 2011 Given? Yes Is 2014 Lowton better than 2011 Hutton? No, but Hutton is still at Villa Is 2014 Vlaar better than 2011 Dunne? Yes Is 2014 Baker better than 2011 Collins? No, buy 2014 Senderos is Is 2014 Cissokho better than 2011 Warnock? Yes Is 2014 Nzogbia better than 2011 Nzogbia? They're about the same Is 2014 Sanchez better than 2011 Herd? Yes Is 2014 Westwood better than 2011 Petrov? No Is 2014 Cleverley better than 2011 Heskey? Yes Is 2014 Agbonlahor better than 2011 Agbonlahor? They're about the same Is 2014 Weimann better than 2011 Bent? They're about the same On the bench... Is 2014 Given better than 2011 Guzan? No Is 2014 Bacuna better than 2011 Jenas? Yes Is 2014 Bent better than 2011 Ireland? No Is 2014 Senderos better than 2011 Cuellar? Yes Is 2014 Clark better than 2011 Clark? They're about the same Is 2014 Richardson better than 2011 Albrighton? No Is 2014 Cole better than 2011 Delph? No Lets not confuse opinion for fact, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 For me another game that shows there has been no progress from where we were 3 years ago. Of course there hasn't been any progress. We've had hardly any money to spend, and what we have spent has gone on players who have been injured a lot of the time. It doesn't matter how loudly you demand a silk purse or how many times you point out that you don't have a silk purse if the raw materials are limited to a sow's ear. So what's the point of his appointment and keeping him if we don't expect improvement from a manager we wanted rid of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 For the sake of Crackpot's post... since west ham we're in the league the year mcleish was our manager, the corresponding fixture was against Norwich so... Is 2014 Guzan better than 2011 Given? Yes Is 2014 Lowton better than 2011 Hutton? No, but Hutton is still at Villa Is 2014 Vlaar better than 2011 Dunne? Yes Is 2014 Baker better than 2011 Collins? No, buy 2014 Senderos is Is 2014 Cissokho better than 2011 Warnock? Yes Is 2014 Nzogbia better than 2011 Nzogbia? They're about the same Is 2014 Sanchez better than 2011 Herd? Yes Is 2014 Westwood better than 2011 Petrov? No Is 2014 Cleverley better than 2011 Heskey? Yes Is 2014 Agbonlahor better than 2011 Agbonlahor? They're about the same Is 2014 Weimann better than 2011 Bent? They're about the same On the bench... Is 2014 Given better than 2011 Guzan? No Is 2014 Bacuna better than 2011 Jenas? Yes Is 2014 Bent better than 2011 Ireland? No Is 2014 Senderos better than 2011 Cuellar? Yes Is 2014 Clark better than 2011 Clark? They're about the same Is 2014 Richardson better than 2011 Albrighton? No Is 2014 Cole better than 2011 Delph? No Lets not confuse opinion for fact, please. I think he's got it wrong too, I think 2014 Baker is better than 2011 Collins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 For the sake of Crackpot's post... since west ham we're in the league the year mcleish was our manager, the corresponding fixture was against Norwich so... Is 2014 Guzan better than 2011 Given? Yes Is 2014 Lowton better than 2011 Hutton? No, but Hutton is still at Villa Is 2014 Vlaar better than 2011 Dunne? Yes Is 2014 Baker better than 2011 Collins? No, buy 2014 Senderos is Is 2014 Cissokho better than 2011 Warnock? Yes Is 2014 Nzogbia better than 2011 Nzogbia? They're about the same Is 2014 Sanchez better than 2011 Herd? Yes Is 2014 Westwood better than 2011 Petrov? No Is 2014 Cleverley better than 2011 Heskey? Yes Is 2014 Agbonlahor better than 2011 Agbonlahor? They're about the same Is 2014 Weimann better than 2011 Bent? They're about the same On the bench... Is 2014 Given better than 2011 Guzan? No Is 2014 Bacuna better than 2011 Jenas? Yes Is 2014 Bent better than 2011 Ireland? No Is 2014 Senderos better than 2011 Cuellar? Yes Is 2014 Clark better than 2011 Clark? They're about the same Is 2014 Richardson better than 2011 Albrighton? No Is 2014 Cole better than 2011 Delph? No Lets not confuse opinion for fact, please. why not tell us which ones you disagree with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nik986 Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 For me another game that shows there has been no progress from where we were 3 years ago. Of course there hasn't been any progress. We've had hardly any money to spend, and what we have spent has gone on players who have been injured a lot of the time. It doesn't matter how loudly you demand a silk purse or how many times you point out that you don't have a silk purse if the raw materials are limited to a sow's ear. So what's the point of his appointment and keeping him if we don't expect improvement from a manager we wanted rid of? Many managers don't get lots of millions to spend but still improve the players/team. Lambert seems incapable of improving players/team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackpotForeigner Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 (edited) For me another game that shows there has been no progress from where we were 3 years ago. Of course there hasn't been any progress. We've had hardly any money to spend, and what we have spent has gone on players who have been injured a lot of the time. It doesn't matter how loudly you demand a silk purse or how many times you point out that you don't have a silk purse if the raw materials are limited to a sow's ear. So what's the point of his appointment and keeping him if we don't expect improvement from a manager we wanted rid of? If we don't spend any money we can HOPE for improvement, but hardly expect it or demand it. In fact the law of averages says we should expect the exact opposite. Edited November 8, 2014 by CrackpotForeigner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 No improvement in any players signed in our team bar Guzan, although some could argue he always had the quality. Big reason for me he shouldn't be here. Coaching seems almost none existant in over 2 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nik986 Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 For me another game that shows there has been no progress from where we were 3 years ago. Of course there hasn't been any progress. We've had hardly any money to spend, and what we have spent has gone on players who have been injured a lot of the time. It doesn't matter how loudly you demand a silk purse or how many times you point out that you don't have a silk purse if the raw materials are limited to a sow's ear. So what's the point of his appointment and keeping him if we don't expect improvement from a manager we wanted rid of? If we don't spend any money we can HOPE for improvement, but hardly expect it or demand it. In fact the law of averages says we should expect the exact opposite. Other managers manage to improve their clubs with a relatively small net spend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan501 Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 All that lucky lucky point has done is mask over the cracks of lamberts inept management credentials. He is worse than big eck 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I fully appreciate he hasn't had a lot to spend but I can't understand why, for you, that gives him a free pass. And why do we lose to lower league teams if its all down to money spent? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villafanalways Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Right,after this lucky(in my opinion) draw today,that is 30 points from the last 105... Absolutely disgraceful and pathetic.30 points from 35 games,this as much as many other reasons,show that PL very much deserves the sack! LambertOut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan501 Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Right,after this lucky(in my opinion) draw today,that is 30 points from the last 105... Absolutely disgraceful and pathetic.30 points from 35 games,this as much as many other reasons,show that PL very much deserves the sack! LambertOut! Exactly the point and under lambert we are getting no better we are going backwards under his leadership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Right,after this lucky(in my opinion) draw today,that is 30 points from the last 105... Absolutely disgraceful and pathetic.30 points from 35 games,this as much as many other reasons,show that PL very much deserves the sack! LambertOut! Yep, this isn't about a handful of games. This awful run has gone on far too long and there's nothing changing from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackpotForeigner Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Is 2014 Lowton better than 2011 Hutton? Yes Is 2014 Vlaar better than 2011 Dunne? Yes Is 2014 Baker better than 2011 Collins? About the same Is 2014 Cissokho better than 2011 Warnock? Yes Is 2014 Nzogbia better than 2011 Nzogbia? No Is 2014 Sanchez better than 2011 Herd? Yes Is 2014 Westwood better than 2011 Petrov? No Is 2014 Cleverley better than 2011 Heskey? At scoring goals? No Is 2014 Agbonlahor better than 2011 Agbonlahor? No Is 2014 Weimann better than 2011 Bent? No f in way. On the bench... Is 2014 Given better than 2011 Guzan? No Is 2014 Bacuna better than 2011 Jenas?No Is 2014 Bent better than 2011 Ireland? No Is 2014 Senderos better than 2011 Cuellar? Yes Is 2014 Clark better than 2011 Clark? They're about the same Is 2014 Richardson better than 2011 Albrighton? No Is 2014 Cole better than 2011 Delph? No So I make it slightly better in defence, and a pale shadow in attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Is 2014 Lowton better than 2011 Hutton? Yes Is 2014 Vlaar better than 2011 Dunne? Yes Is 2014 Baker better than 2011 Collins? About the same Is 2014 Cissokho better than 2011 Warnock? Yes Is 2014 Nzogbia better than 2011 Nzogbia? No Is 2014 Sanchez better than 2011 Herd? Yes Is 2014 Westwood better than 2011 Petrov? No Is 2014 Cleverley better than 2011 Heskey? At scoring goals? No Is 2014 Agbonlahor better than 2011 Agbonlahor? No Is 2014 Weimann better than 2011 Bent? No f in way. On the bench... Is 2014 Given better than 2011 Guzan? No Is 2014 Bacuna better than 2011 Jenas?No Is 2014 Bent better than 2011 Ireland? No Is 2014 Senderos better than 2011 Cuellar? Yes Is 2014 Clark better than 2011 Clark? They're about the same Is 2014 Richardson better than 2011 Albrighton? No Is 2014 Cole better than 2011 Delph? No So I make it slightly better in defence, and a pale shadow in attack. And I bet you thought mcleish wasn't doing well enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Heskey scored 1 in McLeish's season. I'd be willing to wager Cleverley can equal that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Some people are happy with today's result. Fair play to them. However, in the grand scheme of things it is like being told you have Gonorrhea rather than Aids. One is preferable to the other but both means you are in the s**t. The sooner Lambert is gone the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunnski Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 The players are still playing for the manager and are giving it their all, we needed a result today and we got it and for once we had a few lucky breaks. We have played good in our last 3 games despite all the pressure and the bad run and have been unlucky to of not picked up more than 1 point, anybody think different?. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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