PaulC Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Disgraceful, it comes down to coaching and tactics. Its pretty damming isn't it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Is it still because we've got the shits? Or poor us, we've had some injuries? Or because we shouldn't expect to win against the big teams, or the 'easy' games now, it seems. Just why are we so shit?I don't really see the point of this. It is possible for there to be mitigating factors in some cases but in other cases we were just awful. Not everything is black and white. The mitigating factor is the manager. We are complete hamstrung by a totally inept, tactically sterile, incomprehensible, waste of space that is Lambert. All teams have mis fortunes, 'mitigating factors etc, but our ability to have been consistently rubbish under this buffoon is nothing to do with mitigating factors. Stop making excuses for shiteness. Just accept it and the reasons why. Stop looking at things in black and white then. I'm not making "excuses" I'm just pointing out that in SOME games there have been genuine mitigating factors, like having half of the team infected with a virus. Likewise with Chelsea and City, we didn't play particularly badly but we were outclassed by teams that are worth many times more than our squad. Games like tonight and Everton on the other hand there aren't really any excuses - we were shit and Lambert should bear the brunt of the blame for it - I've never denied this. As I said, stop looking at things in black and white. Just because some people don't take a blinkered view and think every single defeat is all Lambert's fault doesn't mean that they don't also accept that there have been many occasions where we've just been shit and Lambert is to blame, tonight being a prime example. I'm fed up of having words put into my mouth just because I don't take an extreme opinion. How the **** is he looking at it in black and white? He is looking at what is happening. Quit this 'black and white' obsession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 So let's recap some of Lambert's "achievements" * Joint lowest points total in PL history last season * Record number of home defeats in the clubs history * 5 straight defeats without scoring. Another club record * Heaviest PL defeat to Chelsea 8-0 * Cup exits to Bradford,Millwall, Sheffield Utd & Leyton Orient Why is this incompetent fool still managing our club? Because he's ended up at a club with an owner who has made a mess of things and can't sell the mess he's created. Any other club and I think lambert would be gone by now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginko Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Purely for the fact that Tony Pulis and Steve Clarke are out of work, it's a yes vote from me. The most depressing sentence I've ever written. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Willing to give him until January 1st, but big changes are needed. Blahh Blaaaah Blaaahh! Do you know how many seasons we have been saying this!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 He has had a long run. It isn't working. I don't believe the current squad is too bad. We have to give the players the chance under a new manager. If lambo had the answers we would be seeing evidence by now. Sorry lambo, I think your time should be up, with regret. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 It's all black and white, we are doomed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernova26 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 How much is his contract worth anyway? Looks like he isn't going to give an interview to Sky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan4Life Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Lowton apparently told Villa fans to **** off at end and his missus is going off on one via Twitter again.. https://twitter.com/AbiLowton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I've seen nothing during his time here to suggest to me that it could get better. It's been long enough to show us something now and he's failing to show anything positive. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Please can people think about Pulis and how he walked out of Palace?! I still haven't forgiven O'Neill. I don't want that pretentious dicksplash anywhere near Villa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 (edited) Is it still because we've got the shits? Or poor us, we've had some injuries? Or because we shouldn't expect to win against the big teams, or the 'easy' games now, it seems. Just why are we so shit? I don't really see the point of this. It is possible for there to be mitigating factors in some cases but in other cases we were just awful. Not everything is black and white. The mitigating factor is the manager. We are complete hamstrung by a totally inept, tactically sterile, incomprehensible, waste of space that is Lambert. All teams have mis fortunes, 'mitigating factors etc, but our ability to have been consistently rubbish under this buffoon is nothing to do with mitigating factors. Stop making excuses for shiteness. Just accept it and the reasons why. Stop looking at things in black and white then. I'm not making "excuses" I'm just pointing out that in SOME games there have been genuine mitigating factors, like having half of the team infected with a virus. Likewise with Chelsea and City, we didn't play particularly badly but we were outclassed by teams that are worth many times more than our squad. Games like tonight and Everton on the other hand there aren't really any excuses - we were shit and Lambert should bear the brunt of the blame for it - I've never denied this. As I said, stop looking at things in black and white. Just because some people don't take a blinkered view and think every single defeat is all Lambert's fault doesn't mean that they don't also accept that there have been many occasions where we've just been shit and Lambert is to blame, tonight being a prime example. I'm fed up of having words put into my mouth just because I don't take an extreme opinion. How the **** is he looking at it in black and white? He is looking at what is happening. Quit this 'black and white' obsession. Because he's decided that there are no mitigating factors whatsoever in any of our defeats. Apparently having half the squad infected with a vomiting virus means nothing and didn't contribute to the defeat. You can't just dismiss all games lost as being down to the manager being shit. Everton and tonight definitely but Arsenal and Chelsea? Not so much. It'd be a bit like somebody saying that none of our defeats this season have been down to Lambert and that there have always been mitigating factors when that obviously isn't the case.It It's not an "obsession", I'm just looking at what is happening. Edited October 27, 2014 by Mantis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 How can this guy look so good at Norwich? If you look at his management record he has had about 3 good seasons in 10. He isn't that good is he? Stuck with him as long as we can stay up and if Lerner can't sell the club. Dante's Inferno is more amusing that Lambert's Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Just read the stat that no team has ever taken more than 7 pts from the first 4 games and then been relegated. Season over? Just another record for Lambert to smash Just joking!! Doesn't feel like a joke anymore.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Is it still because we've got the shits? Or poor us, we've had some injuries? Or because we shouldn't expect to win against the big teams, or the 'easy' games now, it seems. Just why are we so shit? I don't really see the point of this. It is possible for there to be mitigating factors in some cases but in other cases we were just awful. Not everything is black and white. The mitigating factor is the manager. We are complete hamstrung by a totally inept, tactically sterile, incomprehensible, waste of space that is Lambert. All teams have mis fortunes, 'mitigating factors etc, but our ability to have been consistently rubbish under this buffoon is nothing to do with mitigating factors. Stop making excuses for shiteness. Just accept it and the reasons why. Stop looking at things in black and white then. I'm not making "excuses" I'm just pointing out that in SOME games there have been genuine mitigating factors, like having half of the team infected with a virus. Likewise with Chelsea and City, we didn't play particularly badly but we were outclassed by teams that are worth many times more than our squad. Games like tonight and Everton on the other hand there aren't really any excuses - we were shit and Lambert should bear the brunt of the blame for it - I've never denied this. As I said, stop looking at things in black and white. Just because some people don't take a blinkered view and think every single defeat is all Lambert's fault doesn't mean that they don't also accept that there have been many occasions where we've just been shit and Lambert is to blame, tonight being a prime example. I'm fed up of having words put into my mouth just because I don't take an extreme opinion. How the **** is he looking at it in black and white? He is looking at what is happening. Quit this 'black and white' obsession. Because he's decided that there are no mitigating factors whatsoever in any of our defeats. Apparently having half the squad infected with a vomiting virus means nothing and didn't contribute to the defeat. You can't just dismiss all games lost as being down to the manager being shit. Everton and tonight definitely but Arsenal and Chelsea? Not so much. It'd be a bit like somebody saying that none of our defeats this season have been down to Lambert and that there have always been mitigating factors when that obviously isn't the case.It It's not an "obsession", I'm just looking at what is happening. I think after around 90 games it's pretty pointless looking at little things that have effected the odd games. The overall picture is terrible and the manager has to take responsibility for this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan501 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Lambert has defo been crying look at his eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 How much is his contract worth anyway? Looks like he isn't going to give an interview to Sky. Not suprised the coward he has nowhere to hide now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukes Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Time should be up, but with that new contract i think we're stuck with him until league 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyh Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Every team has 'mitigating factors'. Our friggin mitigating factors have been going on for years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 (edited) The squad is, IMO, capable of a comfortable finish. There are no excuses this year. Fingers crossed the fantastic Mr. Fox did a good job on the contact get out clause. That bloody contact... Edited October 27, 2014 by P3te Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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