Risso Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 No, they do listen to him, and they like what he says, unfortunately. yep all those traditional Labour voters he's getting by saying that Margaret Thatcher was wonderful and that he wants to privatise the NHS must have listened real hard People in towns like Burnley don't give a stuff about anything like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 24, 2014 Moderator Share Posted October 24, 2014 No, they do listen to him, and they like what he says, unfortunately. yep all those traditional Labour voters he's getting by saying that Margaret Thatcher was wonderful and that he wants to privatise the NHS must have listened real hard People in towns like Burnley don't give a stuff about anything like that. Yes but they are more traditional BNP supporters 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAVe80 Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 No, they do listen to him, and they like what he says, unfortunately. yep all those traditional Labour voters he's getting by saying that Margaret Thatcher was wonderful and that he wants to privatise the NHS must have listened real hard People in towns like Burnley don't give a stuff about anything like that. Unfortunately there is a section of traditional Labour support, that are so pre occupied by not having an immigrant move in next door to them, that most of UKIP's other policies (or lack of) are ignored. If you tell them what they want to hear (we'll stop people coming over and taking your jobs), then they'll happily swallow that and disregard other matters. Last time I was down home, I heard a conversation about Erdington High Street, and a guy saying he doesn't feeling like he's in Britain anymore, when he goes there. Obvious jokes aside, if you've got someone who feels like that, then when someone comes along and tells them they can fix it, you can see why people would get suckered in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 I know we are supposed to be discussing Russell Brand , but this notion that nobody listens to Nigel Farage is frankly ridiculous you may not agree with him , but clearly he has connected with significant amounts of the public in a way that mainstream politicians have completely failed to UKIP have started to wheel out other people here and there but to all extents , it is the Farage roadshow ... he'll do well in the TV debates , whether it's in a Nick Clegg way without actually turning that into votes remains to be seen , but more and more the media are playing into his hands .. the £1.7bn EU bill today beign a prime example 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 So did Hitler.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Did anyone see him on Newsnight? Usual story, someone questions his heavily flawed idea so he starts talking over the top of the other person and rambling on about everything but the point being bought up in a fingers in ears "I can't hear you" fashion. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 I'd have smacked him with his own book if he kept putting his hand on my leg like that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 I'd have smacked him with his own book Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 I'd have smacked him with his own book if he kept putting his hand on my leg like that You mean the book he just released? Revolution by Russell Brand. Coming to your local bookstore in hardback. £20. **** neoliberalism! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 24, 2014 Moderator Share Posted October 24, 2014 Did anyone see him on Newsnight? Usual story, someone questions his heavily flawed idea so he starts talking over the top of the other person and rambling on about everything but the point being bought up in a fingers in ears "I can't hear you" fashion.No idea as I type what this is all about but you make him sound like a politician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Risso Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Did anyone see him on Newsnight? Usual story, someone questions his heavily flawed idea so he starts talking over the top of the other person and rambling on about everything but the point being bought up in a fingers in ears "I can't hear you" fashion.Did Brand use the words paradigm or hegemony? He usually does in the mistaken belief that it makes what he says worth listening to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Did anyone see him on Newsnight? Usual story, someone questions his heavily flawed idea so he starts talking over the top of the other person and rambling on about everything but the point being bought up in a fingers in ears "I can't hear you" fashion. Did Brand use the words paradigm or hegemony? He usually does in the mistaken belief that it makes what he says worth listening to. How did you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chap of Steel Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Saw his interview on Newsnight and he referred to "we, the ordinary people." Ordinary people? You're a millionaire who was married to Katy Perry!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Saw his interview on Newsnight and he referred to "we, the ordinary people." Ordinary people? You're a millionaire who was married to Katy Perry!! Oh but he had a drug addiction once which means he is an ordinary, down to Earth person who we should listen to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockingbird_franklin Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Maybe the term ordinary people refers to something other than levels of wealth or fame. maybe the non ordinary people have something other than wealth and possible fame to separate us and them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Maybe the term ordinary people refers to something other than levels of wealth or fame. maybe the non ordinary people have something other than wealth and possible fame to separate us and them. Was just about to say this. Surprised it needed to be said. That it not intended as a defence of Brand, but of anyone who is in a position to make a difference. They are often wealthy and successful, they should not be derided because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 25, 2014 Author Share Posted October 25, 2014 to be fair to brand in that video on last page he does raise various good points like how there was no evidence to suggest IS was involved but the news story seems to be pointing to that. he might be a sarcastic pr!ck but he knows what he is talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post YLN Posted October 25, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2014 Whatever the opinion that some people here have about Brand, largely constructed from his self-portrayal as a bit of a clearing in the woods, and his association with the Andrew Sachs thing, the 9/12 Bin Laden thing or his don't vote thing, certainly it'd be strange not to agree with his overall message that some people have too much money and other people have too little money, and that this is a reality that rests entirely in the hands of the people who have all the money, so it is unlikely to change. He's a very intelligent guy, who has recognised that there is an appetite for revolution that has been missing an aesthetically palatable, benevolent and high profile leader. He is gaining thousands of followers every day, and I hope it continues. His YouTube subscriber number has tripled in the past few months and the increase is exponential. To write him off because he's a bit camp and his antics annoy you is a bit ignorant. His message is good, and his method of delivery effective. Just because you wear a tie and billionaires wear a tie, doesn't mean you're their peer. In terms of earning you are far nearer the children selling bananas in Africa. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 aesthetically palatable Purely subjective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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