Xela Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Gomis scoring again today. Proof that some players take a bit of time to settle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 true but hopefully he gets a ban for that celebration actually all stupid celebrations should get a ban Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 not too long ago Monk was being tipped for England job, think people even wanted him at Villa Swansea were brutal against Leicester, defence has gone to shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 right to get rid of monk but now got a huge appointment to make, rodgers is the bookies favourite straight away (i know that means nothing) i think much like roy after he left them that'd result in a decent size contingent wanting them to fail, if they appoint pearson and shoot up the league i can see the relegation thread getting busier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 I see Pearson and Moyes linked and thats not the type Swansea have appointed before. Do they change the whole philosophy or do they go for similar. Its a tough call from chairman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 I really think a lot of players have lost focus down there, maybe they've been too comfortable down there and that has lead to complacency. It maybe also ties in with Wales qualifying for euro 2016 as since then Ashley Williams has been making a mistake every game and that hasn't happened before, Sigurdsson has also dipped since Iceland made it. Think they need to go back to playing their first 11 as likes of Eder, Kyle Bartley, Leon Brittan and that awful Modou Barrow bloke aren't good enough to be starting in this league. If they win a game I do think they'll go on a run and climb away from the bottom 3 as there's still good quality there. Interesting to see how Monk does in his next job. I like him but he knew the inside out of Swansea, kit men, tea ladies etc which he won't have the knowledge of at his next club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Is their good quality though? looking at squad Ki, Sigurdsson, Ayew, Shelvey and maybe Williams are good players. the rest are nothing special. I remember the rave reviews for Montero but he was crap vs us They got rid of too many good players after their cup win like Michu,Dyer, Bony, Chico and Pablo that were sold and replaced with poorer players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 The squad looks very very thin. Take out the any of the first XI, the replacements are weak everywhere except the double pivot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gharperr Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 make sure you never massively over-perform as manager. Just stick to doing an average job from the start and youll stay in managment 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 One win in 12 and guess which bunch of muppets obliged! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG_Villa_Fan Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Doesn't look like a smart move at first glance, but if they can get someone more proven like Moyes or Rogers, they might ultimately be better off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Rodgers wont take it, his ego wouldnt allow him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Very interesting piece by Matt Law here.. Swansea City chairman Huw Jenkins faces a huge task to keep the Welsh club and its playing staff together after hitting the panic button and sacking Garry Monk. Although the decision did not come as a surprise after Jenkins refused to back Monk following the Leicester City defeat, Swansea staff have been left in the dark over what is going on to the point where one senior employee only found out by watching Sky Sports. The move is also threatening to split the Swansea dressing-room, where Monk still had plenty of support despite constant rumours of fall-outs with players over the past couple of months. Brendan Rodgers and David Moyes have already personally assured Monk that they are not in for his job, while Rangers manager Mark Warburton is not thought to be keen on taking the post. Gus Poyet has been the most enthusiastic candidate so far, having almost landed the job in the past, but a number of Swansea players and staff do not want the Uruguayan and believe his unpredictable temperament would only lead to more problems. Certainly the next manager will encounter plenty of challenges inside the Swansea dressing-room. One player was recently asked by a member of the coaching team why he was training so badly and replied: “I’m just counting down the days.” It was not made clear whether he meant he was waiting for Monk to be sacked or the January transfer window for an opportunity to leave. The theory inside Swansea is that Jenkins acted so hastily over Monk because of the prospect of the club being taken over and the threat of relegation ruining any potential deal. Swansea held talks with American businessmen John Jay Moores and Charles Noell last year and there has been talk that investors from the US remain interested in either buying the club or purchasing a large stake. Whatever the truth of why Jenkins pulled the plug on Monk so quickly after Swansea enjoyed their best-ever Premier League campaign last season, the actions of the 52-year-old have left many people puzzled. It has never been a secret that Jenkins has taken a hands-on approach to transfers at Swansea and that he, rather than his managers, is responsible for the buying and selling of players. During the three transfer windows in which he was manager, Monk only managed to convince Jenkins to sign one of his first-choice targets – goalkeeper Lukasz Fabianski. The club have made a profit of around £2million on their net spend in that time. When Wilfried Bony was sold to Manchester City last January, Monk is understood to have made former Sevilla striker Carlos Bacca his ambitious first-choice target as a replacement. But Swansea made no attempt to try to land Bacca and Jenkins instead waited until the summer to sign Andre Ayew by paying the Ghanaian an £8million signing on fee, having already handed Bafetimbi Gomis a £7m signing on fee the previous summer. The feeling around the Liberty Stadium has been that both Ayew and Gomis joined Swansea with one eye already on their next move and that has only been strengthened by recent performances. Monk had warned Jenkins in the summer that Swansea would face a tough season if the squad was not significantly strengthened, having realised his players and resources had been pushed to the limit to achieve last season’s eighth-place finish. But Jenkins largely ignored his manager’s advice and spent a total of £8.5m on Franck Tabanou and Eder, neither of whom was considered not good enough to make an immediate impact. A good start to the season, which included a victory over Manchester United at the end of August, proved to be a false dawn as the deficiencies of Swansea’s squad were exposed and Jenkins showed the first signs of real concern following the home defeat to Stoke City. But, rather than work closely with Monk to solve Swansea’s problems, it is understood Jenkins instead met with players to ask their opinions on what was going wrong and whether or not they felt it was the fault of the manager. With captain Ashley Williams apparently frustrated that Monk had not been more effusive in his praise for the achievements of his players to qualify for the European Championships with their national teams and talk of a dispute between midfielders Jonjo Shelvey and Jack Cork, Jenkins got a muddled response. But Monk addressed the issue by calling individual and group meetings of his own ahead of the trip to Liverpool and was confident he had ironed out any misunderstanding between himself and players or between team-mates. Despite suffering a narrow defeat at Anfield, Swansea players spoke positively about the clear-the-air talks and the mood was obviously better until the next defeat came at home to Leicester. That proved to be Monk’s last act as manager, but, while he may now be gone, the same problems at Swansea remain and could yet get much worse. Swansea Crisis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Huw Jenkins strikes me as one of those chairmen who loves attention and think he knows football so he decides who gets signed not the manager. Another Jeremey Peace. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 It wasnt too long ago we were told Swansea was the perfect club for Villa to copy with their shrewd transfer business and brilliant chairman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted December 10, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2015 1 minute ago, Zatman said: It wasnt too long ago we were told Swansea was the perfect club for Villa to copy with their shrewd transfer business and brilliant chairman To be fair, they're still doing much better than us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 4 minutes ago, Zatman said: It wasnt too long ago we were told Swansea was the perfect club for Villa to copy with their shrewd transfer business and brilliant chairman To be fair, every model tried at every single club that isn't the Sky 6/7 will fail at some point. That's the nature of the league. When the top 6 places are decided before a ball is kicked, only 4 of the other teams can finish in the top 10. Stoke and Crystal Palace and Leicester look successful today, but it will go wrong for them just as surely as it has gone wrong for us, and has gone wrong for Swansea. In short, the Premier League is broken. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 maybe points wise but on current form we be playing each other again next season. Gomis is a horrible player and they gave him 7million signing on bonus before wages. Thats MON like insanity, I imagine Shelvey and Cork are on big salaries since they joined from Liverpool and Southampton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 1 hour ago, Zatman said: It wasnt too long ago we were told Swansea was the perfect club for Villa to copy with their shrewd transfer business and brilliant chairman Still doing better than us would swap positions with them in a heart beat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 (edited) It wasn't that long ago Rodgers walked out on Swansea for Liverpool, surely they wont have him back. Monk unlucky, it just shows that theres no patience in football. You're only as good as your last few games. Its no good managers coming in with long-term projects and investing in youth. Sad the way football has gone. Edited December 10, 2015 by PaulC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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