PaulC Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 We should have won that tournament. That and Euro 2004. We certainly were good enough and the fact that we didn't prompts all those doubts about the mental weakness of our players, and why. Nah, we just had a truly inept manager in Sven. ..and if not for the length of a stud against Germany.... Win % for England's better managers: Ramsey 61 Greenwood 60 Hoddle 60 SGE 60 Capello 67 Hodgson 56 Every one was condemned as not good enough and every one was replaced with someone who did worse, except Hodgson, obviously. Capello the highest yet he was the biggest failure of the lot in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 24, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted June 24, 2015 (edited) Yeah win percentage is a bit misleading as managers will always be judged on their performances at major tournaments, and big win percentages can be racked up in qualifying, but ultimately culminate in very disappointing tournaments. Tournaments was where Sven was actually quite good. Three quarter finals in a row is a decent return. The problem is we thought, at the time, that we were better than that. His biggest failing was Euro 2004, imo. But as mentioned, if it weren't for the injury to Rooney he may well have succeeded there. Edited June 24, 2015 by Stevo985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 (Pics removed as they aren't appropriate on here - TrentVilla) Dear oh dear Looking like an absolute nap for this years 'deadpool'. Quote THERE were new fears for Paul Gascoigne last night after he accidentally exposed himself in the street. The football icon — heading to buy booze in only a dressing gown — stumbled barefooted from his flat with a bent cigarette hanging from his lips Slurring his words, Gazza, 49, climbed into a taxi before returning with a bottle of gin, cigs and painkillers. As he stepped out of the cab his gown fell open revealing he was naked underneath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Devastating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 There's no **** justification for publishing that. Shame on the Sun, and anyone willing to buy it or give them web traffic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted July 11, 2016 Moderator Share Posted July 11, 2016 I can't even express how sad seeing that makes me. &^%* you Murdoch this is how I will think of Gazza thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 It is no smartphone picture either. He really is beyond help, I feel for his family. Maybe it would be for the best if he.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 11, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted July 11, 2016 **** The Sun. words removed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 8 hours ago, rodders0223 said: It is no smartphone picture either. He really is beyond help, I feel for his family. Maybe it would be for the best if he.. I understand what you're saying, I'm sure those closest too him probably feel the same as heart breaking as it would be. He clearly doesn't doesn't appear as though he'll ever get back to normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Such a shame, will be dead in 10 years the way he is carrying on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 12, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted July 12, 2016 10 years is very ambitious, imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 I'm genuinely surprised that he has made it this far. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 The Sun is a repulsive newspaper but I have zero sympathy for Gazza if im honest. horrible man who has been given more chances than he probably deserved 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 3 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Such a shame, will be dead in 10 years the way he is carrying on I'd say tat was an optimistic timescale. People blaming the press for this , sorry but its not their fault he did it they are reporting it. Its very much like blaming Grealish's friends for the pictures that surfaced last year. Gascoigne is in the public eye , he did this of his own volition. If he hadn't of done then there would be nothing to report. A player of undoubted skill, especially for the first 5 or 6 years he broke out onto the scene btu I'm afraid I have no sympathy for someone who has received chances, help and support and still slips like this . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer1 Posted July 12, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted July 12, 2016 I have sympathy for him. Seeing him in the state he's in now, it just hits home how deeply ingrained his issues really are. I wouldn't wish that level of destructive addiction on anyone. I also fear that he maybe beyond help, which is the real tragedy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted July 12, 2016 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2016 I have plenty of sympathy for him. He's clearly fighting a combination of depression and addiction. It's not like you can just turn it off. He can't cope with not being a footballer. His interview to Shearer on that Euro '96 programme made that clear. I'd guess that's the source of his depression. The alcohol addiction goes hand in hand with that. Honestly, you've got a cold cold heart if you can't feel sympathy for the guy. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 2 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said: I'm genuinely surprised that he has made it this far. Same here, I remember him attempting punditry during the 2002 world cup and he wasn't in great shape mentally then. 14 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 8 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: I have plenty of sympathy for him. He's clearly fighting a combination of depression and addiction. It's not like you can just turn it off. He can't cope with not being a footballer. His interview to Shearer on that Euro '96 programme made that clear. I'd guess that's the source of his depression. The alcohol addiction goes hand in hand with that. Honestly, you've got a cold cold heart if you can't feel sympathy for the guy. The thing was he was given an opportunity to get back into football with Kettering town and the guy blew it massively. He has only himself to blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 12, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted July 12, 2016 He's part of the problem, I'm not saying otherwise. But to have no sympathy for him is really harsh, imo. He's ill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Yeah I do have sympathy for him, but how many chances does the guy need? Does he not look and see what happened to George Best? No-one is going to give him a transplant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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