AntrimBlack Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 16 hours ago, Arj Guy said: If we finish bottom will it still have been an excellent window?! This is getting ridiculous now I am just saying, I thought it was an excellent window and I remember most posters did too, now suddenly everyone is saying it was a poor window. What is ridiculous about stating what I had said. Past tense, Arj. And an opinion, as I am entitled to have had at that time. You may well be correct, but I have not given up on them yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 16 hours ago, Woodytom said: People were beyond belief in optimism. Banging on about Veretout outshining Pogba in one game, probably a game that nobody watched. Totally oblivious to the fact that Pogba has outshone him 100 fold since when/where it matters. It was similar the window we signed bacuna etc. Like usual, anyone with any doubt was criticised for being negative when actually they'd just looked at reality and realised that the chances are, some complete unheard of from Denmark, is more likely to be shite than the Danish ibrahimovic. The players have been mismanaged terribly so far. It wouldn't shock me to see them all go on to have great careers once we sell them and buy league two players after we get relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arj Guy Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 1 hour ago, AntrimBlack said: I am just saying, I thought it was an excellent window and I remember most posters did too, now suddenly everyone is saying it was a poor window. What is ridiculous about stating what I had said. Past tense, Arj. And an opinion, as I am entitled to have had at that time. You may well be correct, but I have not given up on them yet. My bad I misread your post 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 13 hours ago, Stevo985 said: I think he does. He's got one good performance out of us this season, and isn't a massive word removed. That alone makes him better than Sherwood. 100% AGREE !1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 1 hour ago, DK82 said: The players have been mismanaged terribly so far. I think that's what we're all hoping has happened. Let's be honest though, they are hardly showing even glimpses of being good players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post El-Reacho Posted November 23, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2015 Serious amount of revisionism going on. The french players in particular were some of the most highly regarded in Europe by multiple french football journalists and experts long before we ever showed any interest. I think the optimism surrounding them was fully justified at the time. IIRC there were very few if any saying what a bad idea it would be to sign these guys. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 25 minutes ago, Woodytom said: I think that's what we're all hoping has happened. Let's be honest though, they are hardly showing even glimpses of being good players. worse than that, i can excuse not being good enough, i cant excuse not caring and not putting a shift in saturday was the latter IMO so has over half of our performances so far this season, baggies at home for example, their goal, amavi losing a 50/50 on the edge of our box is nothing to do with being a good player, its not wanting it as much as their player did, unforgivable, we are a damp squib happily accepting our fate because its the easier option 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) 9 minutes ago, villa4europe said: we are a damp squib happily accepting our fate because its the easier option Absolutely. And what makes it worse in my opinion is how we make it easier for them. This 'buck stops with the manager' attitude that spreads across football has got beyond a joke if you ask me. The sheer mention of turning on the players is met with shock and ridicule. Now, I'm not for one minute wanting to attend villa park and be part of a hostile crowd towards the players but hang on a minute............ Your on what, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60 thousand pounds a week son? You're going to well **** earn it. If only by showing us the respect we deserve. Edited November 23, 2015 by Woodytom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 23, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted November 23, 2015 Whilst I don't disagree that the players deserve some of the blame, the Manager does have a huge part to play in their motivation. A good manager should be able to motivate his team no matter what they are paid. It remains to be seen whether Garde can do that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Never saw what some others have seen in him and have said so. Sherwood appointment has killed this club along with the money ball philosophy when buying players in the summer. He will have played a big part in our demise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 (edited) 16 minutes ago, mykeyb said: Never saw what some others have seen in him and have said so. Sherwood appointment has killed this club along with the money ball philosophy when buying players in the summer. He will have played a big part in our demise Fox was considered successful at Arsenal, but he had resources there. He has **** all at Villa, and that's down to the owner. Edited November 28, 2015 by maqroll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 He was a success at arsenal in a completely different role. Ridiculous decision to have him running this club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 13 hours ago, DCJonah said: He was a success at arsenal in a completely different role. Ridiculous decision to have him running this club. I think it's more of a "team", all taking their cue from Lerner. Fox, Almstadt, Reilly, Garde. Everything starts and stops with Lerner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Lerner is clearly the issue but fox doesn't get away with it. Him, almstadt and Reilly need to take some of the blame as well. Once again, in another sport, lerner gets it completely wrong with the men he hires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 He was successful at Arsenal because he was only selling tracksuits and pencil cases. Now this whopper is a CEO, Any jobs going Lerner? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Just when I thought Faulkner was the worst CEO imaginable we find this clown. His decisions have cost us big! The transfer policy is the worst in Premier League history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Definitely earned a good, restful Christmas break knowing he has done a really good job so far. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted December 13, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted December 13, 2015 I read he was meant to meet with supporters before the game today. Did that happen, anyone know what reassurances he have? Cue a picture of Private Frazer from "Dad's Army" saying "We're doooooomed!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swerbs Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 At least Faulkner kept us up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I backed Fox all the way but this appointment looks awful. Should have gave Tim until Christmas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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