Rolta Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 5 hours ago, Chindie said: The sequel trilogy isn't good, by any means, you could fill pages on why, but besides the last one (which is just a mess of rancid arse water) they're well made movies with generally good performances and solid plots (if in the case of the second one, a plot that doesn't fit what anyone expected or anyone really wanted, or fits the series terribly well, or works as a vehicle for what it wants to say). The prequels, meanwhile, are genuinely bad on multiple levels - plots and scripts that barely read like a human wrote them, absolutely atrocious acting, bad cinematography, bad CG, bad filming choices everywhere (multiple 'big spectacle action scenes' that are like watching some hundreds and thousands dropped on a table) - the only thing you can rescue from them is some of the art design was good, some of the music is very good and a couple of scenes are solid. The best of the prequels, RotS, is at best an alright movie, and even to say that you've got to overlook some total stinking clunkers in it's very being. Theres nothing about the sequels that is that bad. Except maybe RoS. For all that FA is just a rote retread of ANH with some new paint, nostalgia porn and mystery boxes, that TLJ is a weird grudge of a movie that resents it's predecessor to the extent it chucks it's plot in the bin, and RoS is a car crash, they aren't genuinely, irredeemably terrible. The prequels, in the main, are. They gave us one of the worst characters in any medium, Binks, have catastrophically bad writing that actively creates plot holes retrospectively because the writer is too stupid to plot them better, and give us a romance across 3 movies that is less convincing than the love affair between a table and a carpet. The Force Awakens has a solid plot? What are you saying? It's basically a sequence of people running in a direction and encountering something from Star Wars. 'Oh look let's take a ship...the Millennium Falcon' 'Oh look a lightsaber' That film is awful. It's so bad. And The Last Jedi? What the hell was in that film's plot? A slow motion chase sequence? A pointless side quest to the casino town? The abominable treatment of the series' core character? Both those films are atrocious from the get go. The only surprise is that Ryan Johnson's effort was so bad because he's actually written and made some good films. JJ Abrams is an idiot and always has been. And yet, yes, somehow, the last one is even worse than those two. What a massive waste of time it all was. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 (edited) The new Star Wars show Acolytes. 5 mins into the first ep and I have a question about a ship burning with open flames in outer space. I have a feeling this will be a bit pants. Watched the first 2 eps, it's 5/10 stuff Edited June 6 by sne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy7211 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 1 hour ago, sne said: The new Star Wars show Acolytes. 5 mins into the first ep and I have a question about a ship burning with open flames in outer space. I have a feeling this will be a bit pants. Watched the first 2 eps, it's 5/10 stuff It's far worse than that. The first two episodes show it's a badly scripted kids show aimed at adults with every TV trope delivered in less than an hour and a half of TV whilst simultaneously launching a new toy line and plenty of new Lego sets. It gets an extra mark for being Star Wars, 2/10 WNB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakotaDakota Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 Latest episode is going down well.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 2 Eps was enough for me with this one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted June 12 VT Supporter Share Posted June 12 Nerdrotic is one of those accounts that no good can come of following. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 I didn't mind the first two episodes—I'll watch the third tonight and that clip above does look utter pants! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart_75 Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 Lesbian space witches? I'm out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jones1328 Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 11 minutes ago, stuart_75 said: Lesbian space witches? I'm out. I'm in 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bielesibub Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 3 hours ago, LakotaDakota said: Latest episode is going down well.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 I didn't hate it. I don't have strong feelings, but they at least made me feel for at least two of the characters. I also like the guy from Squid Game in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 (edited) Episode 4 was decent. It's the second best Star Wars show after Andor. There is no competition though as the rest are pants. It's not mind-blowing but I enjoyed it. Edited June 19 by Rolta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 1 hour ago, Rolta said: It's the second best Star Wars show after Andor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straggler Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 (edited) 3 hours ago, Rolta said: Episode 4 was decent. It's the second best Star Wars show after Andor. There is no competition though as the rest are pants. It's not mind-blowing but I enjoyed it. Mando absolutely pisses on the Acolyte. Andor I would agree is better than both. FWIW I prefer Ashoka to the Acolyte too. Edited June 19 by Straggler Forgot ashoka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 1 hour ago, Straggler said: Mando absolutely pisses on the Acolyte. Andor I would agree is better than both. FWIW I prefer Ashoka to the Acolyte too. Ashoka made no sense at almost any moment in the plot. I was OK with Mando until they brought in Boba Fett, but even then it was very hit and miss. Have you watched episode 4 of the Acolyte? This is the one where I actually started buying into what it's doing. It's building in an interesting way more than the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straggler Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 6 minutes ago, Rolta said: Ashoka made no sense at almost any moment in the plot. I was OK with Mando until they brought in Boba Fett, but even then it was very hit and miss. Have you watched episode 4 of the Acolyte? This is the one where I actually started buying into what it's doing. It's building in an interesting way more than the others. Yep I watched episode 4 over lunch. I found it boring. The acting is wooden. None of the relationships feel real to me, it's partly the fault of stillted dialogue which delivers plot far more than it delivers conversations that real people actually have with each other. My biggest problem is I just don't care about any of them. Even the bad guy is boring. They are trying to give him the big bad treatment, but he just comes off as Kylo Rental costume. I discussed this with my 18 year old son over dinner. We rated all the live action tv star wars shows and the Acolyte did not do well. My son put it dead last as he thought the book of Boba Fett was so bad it was funny. I put it in second last. All that said, I'm often wrong and enjoying TV is in the eye of the beholder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 20 minutes ago, Straggler said: Yep I watched episode 4 over lunch. I found it boring. The acting is wooden. None of the relationships feel real to me, it's partly the fault of stillted dialogue which delivers plot far more than it delivers conversations that real people actually have with each other. My biggest problem is I just don't care about any of them. Even the bad guy is boring. They are trying to give him the big bad treatment, but he just comes off as Kylo Rental costume. I discussed this with my 18 year old son over dinner. We rated all the live action tv star wars shows and the Acolyte did not do well. My son put it dead last as he thought the book of Boba Fett was so bad it was funny. I put it in second last. All that said, I'm often wrong and enjoying TV is in the eye of the beholder. My bar is so low with Star Wars these days, and I'm off work sick, so I think I've just been in a nice daze—I enjoyed the episode as I say and even felt a bit of actual tension building as it went through. But yes, with Star Wars, I'm almost surprised if it's coherent. I like the guy from Squid Game a lot. I think the cast as a whole is pretty decent. Boba Fett is the nadir. Absolute trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Well, the Acolyte finally ended (thank the maker) after it fizzled out dramatically as the series progressed. it certainly doesn’t deserve a second season. It had some promising moments but tried too hard to be inclusive, which only served to develop unlikeable and uninteresting characters instead of focusing on the storyline. Another failure in the book of Star Wars under the Disney helm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 6 hours ago, theboyangel said: Well, the Acolyte finally ended (thank the maker) after it fizzled out dramatically as the series progressed. it certainly doesn’t deserve a second season. It had some promising moments but tried too hard to be inclusive, which only served to develop unlikeable and uninteresting characters instead of focusing on the storyline. Another failure in the book of Star Wars under the Disney helm. It definitely fizzled out. I'm not sure because it was trying 'to be inclusive though'. It was certainly more diverse in its cast, but that didn't make the writing just meh. It got rid of its best characters without really giving any space to really care about them. And by the end the only people left had also not really been developed enough to care about them. There wasn't enough character development for an 8 episode series. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethRDR Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Darth Jason Mendoza didn't even throw one molotov cocktail. MINUS. FIVE. STARS. Shame, as there could be something around a show that puts the concept/nature of the Jedi Order essentially on trial (child soldiers, unchecked power etc.) but ultimately there wasn't enough of a reason to care about a lot of the characters or their motivations and some of the dialogue was really bad (it's Star Wars, that's a very low bar to be clearing). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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