Designer1 Posted July 23, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted July 23, 2014 No, that was Mandela. Ah, good old Winnie. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ads Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 (edited) Late to this thread, but it seems people often fail to distinguish between "different" and "worse" Britain is much "different" than it was 30 years ago. Is it worse? Not a chance, imo. What's that Socrates quote from thousands of years ago? "Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers." People always think the world/country is getting worse. It rarely is. Issues as to the origins of the quote aside, I get your point. I can recall a passage from a 16th century priest bemoaning the youth of today and it really could have been written by angry of Tunbridge Wells and submitted to the Express or the Mail. Edited July 23, 2014 by Ads 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 If there's grass on the wicket, let's play cricket - Geoffrey Boycott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 If there's grass on the wicket, let's play cricket - Geoffrey Boycott From your perspective, do you think Britain is great? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 If there's grass on the wicket, let's play cricket - Geoffrey Boycott From your perspective, do you think Britain is great? Sorry got distracted by famous quotes. Yes Britain is great but I do think gambling laws have become way too lax. It's everywhere! Gambling is a disease and destroys lives. Yet advertisements are in your face 247. Government and gambling corporations continue to prospers while people's lives and families detoriate. New thread? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Nah no need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8pints Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 No, that was Mandela. Ah, good old Winnie. Winnie the Pooh is related to Nelson Mandela? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Socrates, Aristotle etc.. what did they know? Why quote them when they... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 (edited) No, that was Mandela. Ah, good old Winnie. Winnie the Pooh is related to Nelson Mandela? No, Morgan Freeman Edited July 23, 2014 by AVFCforever1991 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 British Liberty Under Threat? With the Magna Carta on display at the Library of Congress for a 10-week exhibition, the United States possesses a physical reminder that its special relationship with Great Britain is grounded not just in shared history, but shared values. George Orwell captured their essence when observing "an all-important English trait: the respect for constitutionalism and legality." He characterized that respect as a "belief in 'the law' as something above the State and above the individual, something which is cruel and stupid, of course, but at any rate incorruptible." As it turns out, the Mother Country's commitment to constitutionalism and legality are flagging, and the transformation is too broad and deep to ignore any longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 12, 2014 Moderator Share Posted November 12, 2014 Inhabitants of planet Earth rather than someone living in La La land ? Now, now. We know you don't like the French. That would be Le La Les Land 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 British Liberty Under Threat? With the Magna Carta on display at the Library of Congress for a 10-week exhibition, the United States possesses a physical reminder that its special relationship with Great Britain is grounded not just in shared history, but shared values. George Orwell captured their essence when observing "an all-important English trait: the respect for constitutionalism and legality." He characterized that respect as a "belief in 'the law' as something above the State and above the individual, something which is cruel and stupid, of course, but at any rate incorruptible." As it turns out, the Mother Country's commitment to constitutionalism and legality are flagging, and the transformation is too broad and deep to ignore any longer. It is a fair cop but coming from the Americans it seems a bit rich. It's like they've never heard of GTMO, special rendition and the Patriot Act. Every President has ignored the constitution at their own convenience and when they have been caught like Nixon they have been let off. Add in the fact that America has the highest incarceration rate in the world and any claims that it is the land of the free seem laughable. But yes, the UK is definitely heading in the same direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Ah, ok. American writers should stick to writing about American issues then, got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 woooooah! Don't upset the Maqroll. Last time we did that they threw all the tea in the sea. Britain's fine, it's the 'British' that are clearings in the woods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 If the content of the article has merit, then the nationality of the author shouldn't matter in the slightest. It seemed like Vanilla would rather deflect the conversation away from the content of the article to obvious and well documented American government policy failings. The thread is about Britain. The linked article is about Britain. But hold everything, the author is American so blah blah blah... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Do you get as consistently ripped off anywhere else in the world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Birmingham council threatening me with an £80 fine if I refuse to fill in and return their electoral roll form promptly ! Thanks Obama ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Depends how you define great! The positives is our heritage and countryside. The big negative is the drinking culture we have here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Lightweight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Depends how you define great! The positives is our heritage and countryside. The big negative is the drinking culture we have here. I agree . It is far too restrictive in the UK . We should be more inclusive and lower the drinking age to 12 . If you are old enough to steal car stereos or carry a knife , then you should be allowed a quiet pint in peace, without the man on your case . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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