Stevo985 Posted December 1, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted December 1, 2014 I think people continue to mis-understand tiredness in footballers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 I think people continue to mis-understand tiredness in footballers its not fatigue thats the problem.. its whether his body can handle 3 games in a week.. is it a risk playing him if hes going to break down. i would imagine Lambert is worried to lose this one so he will most likely play him anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troon_villan Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 I think it'll be roles reversed tonight. Grealish starts and Cole on for 20 (if we need him) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody1000 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 I think it'll be roles reversed tonight. Grealish starts and Cole on for 20 (if we need him)Could be, then Cole back in the starting 11 for the weekend (assuming no breakdowns). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 2, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted December 2, 2014 I think people continue to mis-understand tiredness in footballers its not fatigue thats the problem.. its whether his body can handle 3 games in a week.. is it a risk playing him if hes going to break down. i would imagine Lambert is worried to lose this one so he will most likely play him anyway. My point was that people act as if Joe Cole not being able to play 3 games in a week means he wouldn't physically be able to carry himself out onto the pitch and will die of exhaustion or something if he attempted it. It doesn't mean that. It just means he'll tire quicker or get injured easier. And in the premier league you can't afford to have a player at 80% when the opposition are all at 90-100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Unless you think Cole at 80% is better than say Gabby at 90%. Then it becomes a question. I take your point though and agree to an extent. It is also worth pointing out the obvious - when the body is fatigued you're more susceptible to injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 He's going to be important for us. I think we need to be sensible when we play him. If its a choice of 80% Cole tonight and then 70% Saturday or don't play tonight and 100% Saturday I'd go with the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Maybe give him 45 or 30 minutes, with an eye on the weekend game. Would be better than nothing and could see his movement causing real problems against tiring players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 2, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted December 2, 2014 (edited) Unless you think Cole at 80% is better than say Gabby at 90%. Then it becomes a question. I take your point though and agree to an extent. It is also worth pointing out the obvious - when the body is fatigued you're more susceptible to injury. Well yeah, that's obviously the debate. I was just plucking numbers out of the sky to make the point really. I'm not really aiming this at anyone on here, but you hear people say about footballers "They're professional athletes, they should be able to play 2 games in a week without getting tired!" They can. Obviously. That's not the point. Edited December 2, 2014 by Stevo985 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody1000 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 (edited) Without wanting to get carried away after one performance, if he can maintain that level then ideally I think the club would benefit from a 'McGrath' style training routine for Joe. It worked wonders for Ledley King, and I'm sure many others. Edited December 2, 2014 by Woody1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 (edited) Unless you think Cole at 80% is better than say Gabby at 90%. Then it becomes a question. I take your point though and agree to an extent. It is also worth pointing out the obvious - when the body is fatigued you're more susceptible to injury.Well yeah, that's obviously the debate. I was just plucking numbers out of the sky to make the point really. I'm not really aiming this at anyone on here, but you hear people say about footballers "They're professional athletes, they should be able to play 2 games in a week without getting tired!" They can. Obviously. That's not the point. Yeah, we're not disagreeing. Pisses me off too, particularly when people bring money in to the debate. It's BECAUSE they're such finely tuned athletes (in most cases) that if they're not at 100% it shows. They're playing at the very highest level, so any drop in athletic performance will be noticeable. I imagine it like this - think of Usain Bolt running the 100m at only 80% fitness. Imagine he clocks a time of 10.36 seconds and pulls a hamstring. Sure, he ran the race, but was it really worth it? There is still a debate to be had that 60 minutes of Cole at 80% is more beneficial to us than Gabby or one of Westwood/Cleverly at full fitness. Bearing in mind that three games in a week and his fitness will only deteriorate further, I think we need a win on the board ASAP and should go for that tonight and rest him the weekend. Fitness dependent, of course! Edited December 2, 2014 by dont_do_it_doug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Well he starts. Let's hope he has a similar impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itdoesntmatterwhatthissay Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Off already, injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Another utter waste of time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villarule123 Posted December 2, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted December 2, 2014 RIP Joe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Oh shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Injury prone player with injury shocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Blessing in disguise him coming off, Sanchez has been awesome. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 It didn't seem too awful. He walked off without a limp. Probably just tightness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted December 2, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted December 2, 2014 It didn't seem too awful. He walked off without a limp. Probably just tightness. Only two months then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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