Popular Post tonyh29 Posted June 20, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 20, 2014 Whether we advance or not, I hope Hodgson resigns or is given the boot as soon as the tournament is over. I don't. I think he's got us heading in roughly the right direction, despite a very bad performance yesterday. I think to sack him would be knee jerk, and I hope if they do they have somebody lined up to replace him who can carry on a similar strategy we have a strategy I think he showed a lack of a plan B and I'm not entirely sure that his plan A was that good to start with I keep being told on Facebook that you can't polish a turd , which is true , but you also don't have to play it out of position or 2 years past it's best 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 I'd like to see some fresh faces in the starting line up for the final game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Switzerland's leap above England and Italy in the FIFA world rankings is entirely down to the influx of immigrants from the Balkan states. There are 14 in their present squad and another 2 appear in their recent call-ups. I am not sure this would work for England, judging by the performance of Phil Jagielka last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa_shere Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 not just the youthful players, how about Downing or Young? This team was crying out for one of them on their form circa 2012. They made big money moves and fell off the radar. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frobisher Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Switzerland's leap above England and Italy in the FIFA world rankings is entirely down to the influx of immigrants from the Balkan states. There are 14 in their present squad and another 2 appear in their recent call-ups. I am not sure this would work for England, judging by the performance of Phil Jagielka last night. Hopefully we get the next Gheorghe Hagi come through in a few years' time. EDL might change their tune then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Blame has to lay squarely with Hodgson He bought into the hype of Tony Daley part 2 who has no end product , he picked Baines over Cole who clearly is twice the player Baines will ever be , he picked Wellbeck and if that wasn't bad enough he then played him in Midfield , he played Rooney at LM , he picked Henderson and the icing on the cake was picking Gerrard who is clearly past it Look at the other decent teams in this World Cup and they play with 2 banks of 4 pretty much all the time , and you also see the teams in the champions league do it ... It seems to be the way football is lately That is the opposite of the way football is now, 2 banks of four is dead. Flexibility is key, the fact that Rooney playing left or centre was such a big debate says a lot. Playing Henderson and Gerrard in the middle and no one else has cost England, defending from the front is great but not if you can't defend from the back. you could argue it's 4-2-3-1 , but really it's still a 4-4-2 formation .. the midfield always make sure their back four are protected, yet they are also great on the ball and press forward brilliantly ... just look at the Italy game , when we got the ball wide or broke forward , they pretty much always had 2 banks of 4 between us and the goal .. Sterling sometimes beat 2 even 3 men , but there was always a 4th or a 5th man and lots of times our attackers just ran into dead ends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Still on track for the 2022 triumph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 not just the youthful players, how about Downing or Young? This team was crying out for one of them on their form circa 2012. They made big money moves and fell off the radar. Despite all the patriotic clap-trap the only real concern for players is money and they are not reticent about that fact when they are in private. Becoming an international just raises a players commercial value. No doubt Gerrard will be appearing in some jokey advert very soon, as he rakes in another wad, celebrating his cock-up, just like every other guilty England player did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 I want England to do well and I hope I'm wrong, but they aren't getting out of this group. 2 losses of Italy and Uruguay and it will all be over before the embarassing draw to Costa Rica. Italy and Uruguay to qualify. depressingly accurate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Interesting Paradox in the last game (bravely assuming that Italy will beat Costa Rica tonight): We will be relying on Italy to beat Uruguay, but Uruguay will be relying on us to get something out of the Costa Rice game. Should it look like Uruguay are going to triumph against Italy, then we should throw the game against Costa Rica. That'd wipe the smile from Suarez's face. (I'm not actually bitter about Suarez at all, fair play to him, that was some performance). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frobisher Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 I want England to do well and I hope I'm wrong, but they aren't getting out of this group. 2 losses of Italy and Uruguay and it will all be over before the embarassing draw to Costa Rica. Italy and Uruguay to qualify. depressingly accurate I bet you are a little bit gratified by how accurately you called it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 I want England to do well and I hope I'm wrong, but they aren't getting out of this group. 2 losses of Italy and Uruguay and it will all be over before the embarassing draw to Costa Rica. Italy and Uruguay to qualify. depressingly accurate I bet you are a little bit gratified by how accurately you called it. Well no not really, and I'm not known for my mindless pessimism but this situation was the safest bet at the World Cup. Not patriotic, or popular, but the most obvious outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Interesting Paradox in the last game (bravely assuming that Italy will beat Costa Rica tonight): We will be relying on Italy to beat Uruguay, but Uruguay will be relying on us to get something out of the Costa Rice game. Should it look like Uruguay are going to triumph against Italy, then we should throw the game against Costa Rica. That'd wipe the smile from Suarez's face. (I'm not actually bitter about Suarez at all, fair play to him, that was some performance). Don't blame Suarez, blame The Sun for winding him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakid007 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 I'd like to see some fresh faces in the starting line up for the final game Foster Milner Cahill jagielka shaw Barkley wilshire lallana Sterling lambert Ox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 That team would lose 5-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frobisher Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 I want England to do well and I hope I'm wrong, but they aren't getting out of this group. 2 losses of Italy and Uruguay and it will all be over before the embarassing draw to Costa Rica. Italy and Uruguay to qualify. depressingly accurate I bet you are a little bit gratified by how accurately you called it. Well no not really, and I'm not known for my mindless pessimism but this situation was the safest bet at the World Cup. Not patriotic, or popular, but the most obvious outcome. I wasn't having a go - I should have just said "good call" admiringly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Interesting Paradox in the last game (bravely assuming that Italy will beat Costa Rica tonight): We will be relying on Italy to beat Uruguay, but Uruguay will be relying on us to get something out of the Costa Rice game. Should it look like Uruguay are going to triumph against Italy, then we should throw the game against Costa Rica. That'd wipe the smile from Suarez's face. (I'm not actually bitter about Suarez at all, fair play to him, that was some performance). Don't blame Suarez, blame The Sun for winding him up. No I don't blame Suarez, if anything my estimation of him has gone up slightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 The problem is our young stars are never as good as people think they are. Barkley and lallana are good players and will become even better players, but they will never be consistently world beaters. Ok on their day they can caurse any team problems but let's be honest they aint ever going to be top class. Its the same at the villa, these youngsters that come up through the ranks that are meant to be great, turn out to be very average or just pure shit. We can't produce the class other nations can, history tells us that. I think we have had teams that have had a really good chance of winning something, but that aint been often. Most over hyped national team ever, or atleast one of them. England is great for club football but that's it, ok we had a great hooligan outfit as well but that's about it. Thats so true. Everybody is raving about Barkley but he's only in his first full season and hasn't done enough for the media attention he is getitng. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 I want England to do well and I hope I'm wrong, but they aren't getting out of this group. 2 losses of Italy and Uruguay and it will all be over before the embarassing draw to Costa Rica. Italy and Uruguay to qualify. depressingly accurate I bet you are a little bit gratified by how accurately you called it. Well no not really, and I'm not known for my mindless pessimism but this situation was the safest bet at the World Cup. Not patriotic, or popular, but the most obvious outcome. I wasn't having a go - I should have just said "good call" admiringly. No worries. Nuanced language doesn't translate well to the screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 I blame Roy Hodgson, The FA, the money players get - so at 18 some are already made for life. Corruption is also another thing I blame. Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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