Dr_Pangloss Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 (edited) IF Groves sticks to his jab and movement, and pops Froch, whose defense is amongst the worst in boxing, with counter right hands, he can win a lopsided points decision. The problem with Groves is he tends to get tired and likes to go to war, which will play into Froch's hands. But if Groves fights a disciplined fight, similar to what he did against DeGale, he can win this. The thing is Groves knows he can badly hurt Froch, having floored him in round one and rocking him all over the shop in the subsequent rounds, especially in round 6 and 7, where Froch really wasn't taking the punches well... I've seen a lot of people predict Froch to win early, Froch doesn't tend to start early, he tends to come on late, the note-able exceptions being the Bute and second Kessler fight. Froch definitely got caught cold the first time around, so I guess we can expect him to look to come out faster this time around. Edited May 31, 2014 by Dr_Pangloss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted May 31, 2014 Moderator Share Posted May 31, 2014 Froch in 8. I really don't like Groves - he seems to me a dog average fighter who's been pumped up by a second tier promoter into thinking he's the future of English boxing. Froch is limited but proven, I hope he knocks him into Tuesday. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 (edited) Heart says Froch head is undecided. Given how he performed in the first fight I am not sure how much Froch has left in the tank. Was that just a poor night or was it the onset of something more deep rooted and he is past it. Groves is a decent fighter nothing more and before the first fight I was confident Froch would deal with him comfortably. If Froch can start much quicker than he did in the first fight and performs to anything like the level he did against the likes of Bute he will take Groves out inside 7 rounds. If he produces a similar performance to the one he did in the first where he looked slow and totally void of any ideas then if Groves boxes clever he would well win. Hard one to call but I'll go with my heart and a Froch win inside 7. Edited May 31, 2014 by markavfc40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 I think froch needs to take the fight to groves, he can't let groves take the fight to him like he did in the last fight. Froch needs to drag groves into a fight and if he does he will come out on top, froch aint got much of a defence but he can take a punch. I can see froch finishing groves in 6 rounds if he makes it his kind of fight. Groves has got to finish froch off early if he's going to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Want Froch, think Groves. Froch is winding down I think. He's going to retire whatever the result. That's why he was being so forceful with the 80/20 split, he knows this is the end one way or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Froch won't want to go out getting beat by groves, but even if he wins you could easily see him calling it a day. Groves is a lot quicker than froch though, and you could easily see that in the last fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Froch in 8. I really don't like Groves - he seems to me a dog average fighter who's been pumped up by a second tier promoter into thinking he's the future of English boxing. Froch is limited but proven, I hope he knocks him into Tuesday. This is crazy, he's better than average, he's a puncher with a pretty good jab, deceptive hand spend and decent footwork. He's a world level super-middle weight who quite easy could become a champion. He has some limitations but he's a lot better than 'dog average'. Want Froch, think Groves. Froch is winding down I think. He's going to retire whatever the result. That's why he was being so forceful with the 80/20 split, he knows this is the end one way or the other. Unlikely, he has a contract with HBO and if he wins will be likely to face off against someone like Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 The people who think Groves is average are probably the same people who thought DeGale was world class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted May 31, 2014 Moderator Share Posted May 31, 2014 Froch in 8. I really don't like Groves - he seems to me a dog average fighter who's been pumped up by a second tier promoter into thinking he's the future of English boxing. Froch is limited but proven, I hope he knocks him into Tuesday. This is crazy, he's better than average, he's a puncher with a pretty good jab, deceptive hand spend and decent footwork. He's a world level super-middle weight who quite easy could become a champion. He has some limitations but he's a lot better than 'dog average'. Well Doc, you know your boxing better than I do, I'll watch with open eyes tonight and see if I've done him a disservice. DeGale? Nah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The_Rev Posted May 31, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 31, 2014 Dunno if anybody here is going to the fight but there is a 23:45 train back from Wembley Stadium to Birmingham. We were so short of drivers for that one that we have had to pull in a bloke on his day off to do it. The thing is he is also at the fight so don't worry about running back for the train, the driver will be in the crowd with you. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Hope Froch gets beaten... again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Now now ajax, froch would of gone on to win anyway if the ref didn't stop it. I don't mind groves but credit to froch that night for coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 That referee was a joke, belongs in Olympic Boxing. I can see Froch winning tonight though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 I agree, no way should that fight of got stopped at that precise moment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Want Groves to win but I think Froch will be better this time.I can't watch all the other fights, what might be the pick of these?James DeGale v Brandon GonzalesKevin Mitchell v Ghislain MadumaJamie McDonnell v Tabtimdaeng Na RachawatAnthony Joshua v Matt Legg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 (edited) Mitchell needs to look good tonight, dunno much about Maduma though. He is top 20 in the world I think. Edit: Just saw Mitchell has failed to make the weight. Edited May 31, 2014 by The_Rev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted May 31, 2014 Moderator Share Posted May 31, 2014 It's a great under card for what should be a great nights boxing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 I hope Groves loses purely because he wore Beats at the weigh in. Tosser. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 I hope Groves loses purely because he wore Beats at the weigh in. Tosser. Yeah but Froch has his ear pierced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted May 31, 2014 Moderator Share Posted May 31, 2014 In a likeableness competition I go with FrankenFroch rather than the shifty wide boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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