ender4 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Brilliant episode - best of the season so far. Loved so much... (only click after watching episode) 1) Sansa Stark becoming all grown-up & calculating. 2) Arya Stark laughing crazily 3) Red Viper death 4) Tyrion talking about killing beetles 5) Missandei naked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ender4 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 I have a question: the guy who 'owns' Theon Greyjoy - he met with someone on a hill. 1) It was either his dad, or they were pretending to be father and son? Who is that person? 2) The 'dad' called him something 'Snow'. Is that his real surname? Does that mean he's related to John Snow? confused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 (edited) He's the bastard son of Roose Bolton. http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Ramsay_Snow Edited June 2, 2014 by AVFCforever1991 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Snow is the name for all bastards, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villarule123 Posted June 2, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted June 2, 2014 ^^^ It's Roose Bolton, the guy who killed Robb Stark It's his bastard son, but I guess he has awarded him with his own name as he took a fort for him. Snow is the surname of every bastard born in the North 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 All bastards in the north have snow for a surname Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Omg Snow = Ice Dany = Fire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Brilliant episode - best of the season so far. Loved so much... (only click after watching episode) 1) Sansa Stark becoming all grown-up & calculating. 2) Arya Stark laughing crazily 3) Red Viper death 4) Tyrion talking about killing beetles 5) Missandei naked Mixed bag of an episode for me. 1) Seemed a bit "all of a sudden" to me 2) Seemed a bit out of character and didn't make much sense 3) Epic scene 4) Really boring story, and I struggled to find a metaphor in it 5) Hubba Bubba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 (edited) I struggled to find a metaphor in it We live in universe that is meaningless and brutal, and what Tyrion wanted to know was 'why?' bad things happen, not to beetles, but to people. Remember that the speech started with him saying it says a lot about the gods when justice comes as a result of people killing each other. Tyrion has constantly been shit on throughout his life, and now finds himself in a position similar to those beetles: at the whims of forces far greater than he, which are merciless and have no reason behind their actions. If you think about it, the deaths that have occurred since the start of the series (never mind main characters, just normal civilians being slaughtered left right and centre), have been for nothing. There is no meaning, there is no why. It's just cause and effect. It's the heart of the show imo. Edited June 2, 2014 by CarewsEyebrowDesigner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCU Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 That ending was so good. Had to rewatch a few times. Tyrion's face at the very end. Brilliant episode - best of the season so far. Loved so much... (only click after watching episode) 1) Sansa Stark becoming all grown-up & calculating. 2) Arya Stark laughing crazily 3) Red Viper death 4) Tyrion talking about killing beetles 5) Missandei naked 5) I loved this bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troon_villan Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 I struggled to find a metaphor in it We live in universe that is meaningless and brutal, and what Tyrion wanted to know was 'why?' bad things happen, not to beetles, but to people. Remember that the speech started with him saying it says a lot about the gods when justice comes as a result of people killing each other. Tyrion has constantly been shit on throughout his life, and now finds himself in a position similar to those beetles: at the whims of forces far greater than he, which are merciless and have no reason behind their actions. If you think about it, the deaths that have occurred since the start of the series (never mind main characters, just normal civilians being slaughtered left right and centre), have been for nothing. There is no meaning, there is no why. It's just cause and effect. It's the heart of the show imo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wainy316 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Missandei naked! Oh my! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Some of us have been waiting for that since Hollyoaks. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Undoubtedly the best deviation from the book is not having Missandei as a 10 year old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share Posted June 3, 2014 Brilliant episode - best of the season so far. Loved so much... (only click after watching episode) 1) Sansa Stark becoming all grown-up & calculating. 2) Arya Stark laughing crazily 3) Red Viper death 4) Tyrion talking about killing beetles 5) Missandei naked Mixed bag of an episode for me. 2) Seemed a bit out of character and didn't make much sense Think of it like this: Arya arrives at the Sept of Baelor just in time to see her dad get beheaded. Then, gets to the Frey castle just in time to find out her brother and mother have-just-been/are-being brutally murdered inside and can't do anything about it. Arya then arrives a couple of days after her aunt has been killed falling to death. I think it's fair to say that she's allowed to go a little crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ginko Posted June 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2014 (edited) I have a question: the guy who 'owns' Theon Greyjoy - he met with someone on a hill. 1) It was either his dad, or they were pretending to be father and son? Who is that person? 2) The 'dad' called him something 'Snow'. Is that his real surname? Does that mean he's related to John Snow? confused As has been said in earlier posts, Ramsay Snow (the guy who 'owns' Theon as you put it) is the bastard son of Lord Roose Bolton who was a bannerman to the Starks since the Boltons reside in the Dreadfort which is in the North and the Starks were the Wardens of the North. Roose Bolton conspired with Tywin Lannister to betray Robb Stark when he was the King in the North (the Red Wedding) and now with Winterfell (the Stark's home) burned to the ground and most of the Starks thought to be dead, Tywin gave Bolton the title of Warden in the North. Since Roose Bolton has no true male heir, and since Ramsay helped take Moat Cailin by using Theon (the castle he was sent into to treat with the Iron Islanders occupying it near the start of the episode), Roose has decided to recognise his bastard as his heir and he is no longer Ramsay Snow, but Ramsay Bolton. All bastards born in the North are given the surname Snow, like Jon since he is the bastard son of Ned Stark (Sean Bean). All around Westeros (the continent most of the story is set in) bastard children are given a specific surname. This is usually reflective of the area they are born in, such as Snow because the North is cold and there is lots of Snow, and Sand is another surname used in the south of Westeros in Dorne (where Oberyn, the guy who fought the Mountain as Tyrion's Champion, is from) because there are lots of deserts around that part of the continent. Other examples are: Rivers for bastards born in the Riverlands (where Catelyn Stark is originally from) Stone for bastards born around the Vale (where Baelish and Sansa are at the moment in the TV show) Storm for bastards born in the Stormlands (where Robert, Stannis and Renly Baratheon are originally from) Yes yes, I know... Edited June 3, 2014 by Ginko 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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