Stevo985 Posted May 31, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 31, 2016 I also thought Walder Frey and Reek's father were the same person. obviously not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meath_Villan Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 So bran caused all the Shit .....kill bran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 (edited) @ Ben Very similar in appearance and personality and rarely appear in the show . I bet you aren't the only person who thought that. Edited May 31, 2016 by Brumerican Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Yep, a standard table setting episode that progressed plots and built up the conflicts to come. Not amazing, but solid. A few points: Sam's sword will definitely come in handy, but I'm more interested to see what happens at the Citadel. They are taking their sweet time to get him there so I'm going to assume it is Very Important Stuff and will mostly happen next season. No Ramsay is always a bonus. Shite character. Hope Sansa fists him into a pulp. Arya's plot is finally moving forward and her bloody escape from the Faceless Men will be fun, but I can't help feel this whole storyline has been a waste of time. As she'll obviously get to Westeros and start taking the remaining names off that list before too long, the rest of the season will probably be her getting to Westeros (perhaps on a boat with Tyrion?). Dany continues to be boring and the show just isn't doing enough to make us question her actions. I guess that will be a final season deal when the Dothraki and co are let loose on the innocents of Westeros. I'm hoping Dario turns out to be a long-term schemer and does her in at some point. For the time being we just have to put up with her annoying entitlement (why, exactly, is Westeros rightfully hers? Nobody elected her!) The mention of the Brotherhood without Banners can only mean one thing: GENDRY RETURNS. King's Landing got a bit more interesting again but only thanks to Margery and the High Sparrow. Tommen is such a dreadful actor that he's sucked the life out of this storyline. I also can't help but feel it is all a bit pointless in the scheme of things, but perhaps that is the point? Power struggles among people distract from the bigger issues (DRAGONS, WHITE WALKERS, CLIMATE CHANGE YO). Cleganebowl is in doubt unless the Hound makes an appearance very soon. For the trial by combat, I'm starting to think Loras will join the Sparrows and we'll have a rerun of the Mountain's and his brief duel in Season 1 (BUT REMEMBER WHO STOPPED THAT? THE HOUND OMG!11!) How Walder Frey will die remains a mystery. It has to be poetic. Maybe he'll find his way onto Arya's list (if he isn't already on there). Finally, nice to see Benjen again. I do buy into the theory that Bran makes everything happen but not really because it already happened (repeating 'burn them all' is, to my mind, a deliberate echo of Hodor's 'hold the door'). It's sad and fatalistic and fitting. Bran the Destroyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wainy316 Posted May 31, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted May 31, 2016 17 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: I also thought Walder Frey and Reek's father were the same person. obviously not. This is the best way to remember who Walder Frey is... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brumerican Posted May 31, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted May 31, 2016 Being a Villa fan made him so hateful that he took it out on Harry Potter and the Starks. Randy Lerner is just as much to blame for the Red Wedding as anyone. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 17 minutes ago, CarewsEyebrowDesigner said: Dany continues to be boring and the show just isn't doing enough to make us question her actions. I guess that will be a final season deal when the Dothraki and co are let loose on the innocents of Westeros. I'm hoping Dario turns out to be a long-term schemer and does her in at some point. For the time being we just have to put up with her annoying entitlement (why, exactly, is Westeros rightfully hers? Nobody elected her!) Because she is the only living child of the slain former King. A family that had reigned for 1000s of years. 18 minutes ago, CarewsEyebrowDesigner said: The mention of the Brotherhood without Banners can only mean one thing: GENDRY RETURNS. It hopefully means two things! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Does she play a pretty big role in the books? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 About the same. She's the only known surviving Targaryan (two or three possible others, of course), and she has the best possible weapon against the undead army to the north. She's going to be a main character all of the way through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: Because she is the only living child of the slain former King. A family that had reigned for 1000s of years. I get that, my issue is really why we should be on her side. She started off as someone who wanted to 'break the wheel' but is increasingly becoming just another violent conqueror, as Dario noted. How different is she from anyone else if what she wants is to rule the world, at the cost of many lives. simply because her family did? The show is starting to make us question her at least, but not enough for my anti-monarchist taste ;). Interestingly, through the High Sparrow the show is starting to explicitly question the way Westeros is run (essentially a pissing contest between rich families). That the people willingly turn to zealots for revolution and stability is a depressing, if realistic, response. Edited May 31, 2016 by CarewsEyebrowDesigner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 4 minutes ago, CarewsEyebrowDesigner said: I get that, my issue is really why we should be on her side. She started off as someone who wanted to 'break the wheel' but is increasingly becoming just another violent conqueror, as Dario noted. How different is she from anyone else if what she wants is to rule the world, at the cost of many lives. simply because her family did? The show is starting to make us question her at least, but not enough for my anti-monarchist taste ;). I think that's kind of the point. I think the viewers and even her will be horrified by what happens when she gets over there. Martin likes to showcase the true horrors of war. There are no true heroes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Phumfeinz Posted May 31, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted May 31, 2016 Yeah but she's really fit so I'm cheering for her 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Well yeah, there is that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogso Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Next episode is titled 'The Broken Man', I believe it may be Ian McShane's episode and his healing back to heath/resurrection of The Hound. The final three episodes are called 'No One' (Ayra), Battle of the Bastards (Jon v Ramsay) and The Winds of Winter (White Walkers finally reaching The Wall?). Four episodes. I hope too many people aren't too peeved when certain characters haven't moved much. I'm thinking Sam, Dany, and Tyrion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 31, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 31, 2016 27 minutes ago, CarewsEyebrowDesigner said: I get that, my issue is really why we should be on her side. She started off as someone who wanted to 'break the wheel' but is increasingly becoming just another violent conqueror, as Dario noted. How different is she from anyone else if what she wants is to rule the world, at the cost of many lives. simply because her family did? I thought that was entirely the point. I'm rooting for her because I think it will be hilarious for them to be waging their own battle in Westeros and for her to arrive with dragons and a huge army and just kick the shit out of everyone. I doubt many people are rooting for her because of some noble or moral reason. More because she's beautiful and she has dragons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 I think a previously on should have really been used on this episode as brought back I think 4 or 5 characters in name or person and some are blink and miss characters im sure Benjen left after about episode 3 of season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginko Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 I'm pretty sure they do a 'Previously... on Game of Thrones' in the US, or at least they do sometimes, but they never have over here. Maybe they give us a bit more credit than the American audience but Game of Thrones is so vast it really needs them from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 31, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 31, 2016 The only problem with that would it would be an obvious spoiler in a lot of cases. If they'd done a "previously" and showed that Benjen guy, then it would have been completely obvious who that guy who saved Bran was going to be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Anyone slowed down the flashbacks from Bran to see what was said/shown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewieGriffin Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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