Electric Avenue Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Fair play to HH I say. As for Emperor Lerner and his lacky , this reminds me of the wizard of oz where Toto pulls back the curtain to reveal all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Bit chilling. Buy into the Lerner/Faulkner/Lambert "vision" or be cast out of the favoured inner circle. Was surprised to read about such mildly thuggish behaviour. A bit surprised by this also. But would there be an element of exaggeration in this chap Hodgson's account of what happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post suttonpaul Posted February 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2014 The article has a lot of assumption in it and smells of someone looking for points to score. It's hardly a report either it could have been written with a crayon. That is all I am going to say on the matter. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwan Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Should keep the source in mind when reading this article. The whole Holman thing stinks of getting from point A to point C and just drawing a line in between and calling it fact. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electric Avenue Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Bit harsh and disrespectful Sutton Paul . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Bit harsh and disrespectful Sutton Paul . The report didn't sing Lerner's praises so what did you expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Looks like HH wants a place on the board in the near future. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electric Avenue Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Looks like HH wants a place on the board in the near future. Why ? He's a fan like me and you expressing his concerns about the mismanagement of the club (think we'd all agree it's been a shambles for years). He had a route into Faulkner and he used it. Nothing wrong with that 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Who on earth is Howard Hodgson anyway? Why are people suddenly talking about him all the time? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Looks like HH wants a place on the board in the near future. Why ? He's a fan like me and you expressing his concerns about the mismanagement of the club (think we'd all agree it's been a shambles for years). He had a route into Faulkner and he used it. Nothing wrong with that I agree. But it is hardly a "report" on the club, it does not reveal anything we did not already know and it does come across as arrogant with a lot of conjecture thrown in. Why not publish the letter he sent to Lerner? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jon_c Posted February 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2014 I think that Hodgson comes across as a complete tool. I also think Paul Faulkner also comes across as a complete tool. I don't think these should be conflicting points of view. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 I agree that if Hodgson is going to quote Faulkner's reaction to the letter. “What were you trying to achieve in writing this letter to the owner? The manager has seen it and is not happy. We would not want you to outlast your welcome here, Howard.” Then he should at least publish the letter itself so we can judge better, although It seems an incredibly harsh thing for Faulkner to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Howard Hodgson may not be to everyone's taste but at the end of the day he is a fan/customer who spends a lot of money at the club. As a season ticket holder I feel I have the right to voice my opinion at games so I think its bad he's been removed from the directors area. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 We'll see. If the manager is properly backed this summer - and that includes being able to sign players on Premiership wages - I will be able to accept the last few years (McLeish aside) as a necessary evil for us to build sustainably. No excuses though. If we're still shopping in bargain basement then Lerner, for me, has to go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Shaw_nuff Posted February 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2014 like it or lump it..what it says is the truth this is the 4th year of relegation battle in a row, under mon the pressure was on how high we finish.. aww them were the day FOUR YEARS AGO THIS WEEKEND WE WERE PLAYING MAN U IN A CUP FINAL....NOW LOOK AT US!!!!! And them... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Based on this and what John Lerwill has said, the brass at VP behave like thugs, and it's very worrisome. The early days P.R. push was just smoke and mirrors designed to flatter and deflect any future criticism. We are run by a group of inept thugs who are drunk with power. Shameful state of affairs. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 We'll see. If the manager is properly backed this summer - and that includes being able to sign players on Premiership wages - I will be able to accept the last few years (McLeish aside) as a necessary evil for us to build sustainably. No excuses though. If we're still shopping in bargain basement then Lerner, for me, has to go. I don't think 4 years of relegation worries, woeful football and record lows is worth it even if we increase our spending. It didn't have to be this way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bunnski Posted February 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2014 (edited) His opening sentance claims that his last report led to the sale of the club under Ellis....eh climb down off your high horse Howard. He has nothing positive to say about the manager either which is his opinion and that's fair enough but the truth is the manager is not really a major part of the bigger problem, we could change manager in the morning and very little will of changed in the overall scheme of things. Maybe if the board backed the manager properly last summer or even January just gone then Lambert would deserve more blame. The truth is we are gonna be fighting relegation until we back a manager and let him sign players that are proven and can push us onto where we should be. Edited February 27, 2014 by Bunnski 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetrees Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 A reasonable summary, although I am surprised that such a dedicated supporter doesn't know who signed Ireland. Good that it focuses on Lambert, the most inept manager that we have ever had. Interesting that he sees Levy as a 'football man'. I'd be interested to know his opinion as to the point when Levy went from being a Faulkner like person to a 'football man' Getting excluded from the Director's area is no big deal and no surprise. If you walk into someone's house and shit on their lounge carpet, then you can hardly be expected to be offered a seat and a cup of tea. And Randy Lerner reads Twitter, apparently. Might be useful for some of the more outraged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Based on this and what John Lerwill has said, the brass at VP behave like thugs, and it's very worrisome. The early days P.R. push was just smoke and mirrors designed to flatter and deflect any future criticism. We are run by a group of inept thugs who are drunk with power. Shameful state of affairs. Howard Hodgson was socialising with these "thugs" only a few weeks ago, what has changed? Interesting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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