maqroll Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Looking like they've got a long road ahead http://www.ustream.tv/channel/press-club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 Looks like police/army are trying to clear the square which has been occupied for weeks. Concussion grenades being thrown... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted February 18, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted February 18, 2014 Doesn't it go 'London's burning'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 [distasteful joke] Take it out of the oven, then. [/distasteful joke] 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 (edited) In the meantime, Klitschko and other opposition leaders have been shaking hands with Angular, today. Newsnight and C4 reports showed people pretty much taking to the streets in revolt - I'm not sure how else one could interpret a couple of blokes in full view of cameras tossing a molotov through the front door of the HQ of the governing party (unless it was a little bit of drop the dead donkey style cash!). Edited February 18, 2014 by snowychap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packoman Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Some photos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Srsly though, it's a mess. Many (unwisely) present it as West v Russia, i.e. Putin has his man in Kiev but the people want closer union with the EU. Reality is murky as hell with far-right groups being the main instigators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 (edited) I'm off there in Sept ... Thought this would have been long over by then but it would appear this could run a while yet Edited February 19, 2014 by tonyh29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Not nice to see, one of my absolute favourite cities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted February 19, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted February 19, 2014 Not for the first time, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Kiev got utterly bummed in world war two. It really is a beautiful city under all the carnage, hope it remains so when this blows over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Interesting look at the various paramilitary groups involved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26267220 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 So much for a truce! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) Obama swingin' at Putin too, Edited February 20, 2014 by CarewsEyebrowDesigner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted February 20, 2014 Author Share Posted February 20, 2014 I really wish Obama would stay out of other countries' business. He has no moral authority to be preaching to other governments about freedom and democratic values. It's an embarrassment. Until he can lead by example, his words ring hollow. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avfc96 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I really wish Obama would stay out of other countries' business. He has no moral authority to be preaching to other governments about freedom and democratic values. It's an embarrassment. Until he can lead by example, his words ring hollow. Obama is a hypocrite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Well he was democratically elected the President of the United States, which automatically assigns him to the offices of Leader of The Free World, Most Powerful Man In The World, and Intergalactic Ambassador For Freedom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Whilst I'm no fan of American imperialism, right now the alternative for the people in Western Ukraine is to be dictated to by Putin. If I was in a tight spot and had a choice of Obama or Putin I'd go with Obama for now and worry about the finer points later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electric Avenue Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 As much rhetoric as Obama puts out there, there's actually very little the US can do here. Bit like Syria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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