suttonpaul Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 What he said^^ And if you make it into Europe your banned from the competition. That's on the harsh side. Look it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 (edited) Ok lets be clear. That there are no excuses when the books are balanced now, not what he has previously spent. Lets be clear that FFP penalties come into effect this year which means for the last three years we have needed to comply with it. How does FFP work then ? - so if Randy wants to invest £40m into what is effectively a business - the FA would move in and stop him ? - do you honestly believe that would happen ? I thought FFP only applied to champions league qualifications but maybe i am wrong. In anycase we are going to get at least an extra 14 million from sky so we can afford to spend a bit more than 20 mil I think. Edited February 17, 2014 by PaulC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Same as we have needed the last few summers... A couple of good midfielders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 Ok lets be clear. That there are no excuses when the books are balanced now, not what he has previously spent. Lets be clear that FFP penalties come into effect this year which means for the last three years we have needed to comply with it. How does FFP work then ? - so if Randy wants to invest £40m into what is effectively a business - the FA would move in and stop him ? - do you honestly believe that would happen ? I thought FFP only applied to champions league qualifications but maybe i am wrong. In anycase we are going to get at least an extra 14 million from sky so we can afford to spend a bit more than 20 mil I think. There's UEFA FFP and Premier League FFP, both now in affect, only the latter will affect us at the moment, but that's the one that has points deductions included in penalties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 To start passing the ball. Failing that, the only way forward is a football-mad very rich man to buy us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Ok lets be clear. That there are no excuses when the books are balanced now, not what he has previously spent. Lets be clear that FFP penalties come into effect this year which means for the last three years we have needed to comply with it. How does FFP work then ? - so if Randy wants to invest £40m into what is effectively a business - the FA would move in and stop him ? - do you honestly believe that would happen ? I thought FFP only applied to champions league qualifications but maybe i am wrong. In anycase we are going to get at least an extra 14 million from sky so we can afford to spend a bit more than 20 mil I think. Any club thats gets points deducted for investing in players would surley challenge that deduction court - and asuming the club aren't in crippling debt the PL would look to be on dodgy ground. The measuring stick in any case seems to be wages - not transfer fee's - so you could offer a player a whopping signing on fee, but 40k pw wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Ok lets be clear. That there are no excuses when the books are balanced now, not what he has previously spent. Lets be clear that FFP penalties come into effect this year which means for the last three years we have needed to comply with it. How does FFP work then ? - so if Randy wants to invest £40m into what is effectively a business - the FA would move in and stop him ? - do you honestly believe that would happen ? I thought FFP only applied to champions league qualifications but maybe i am wrong. In anycase we are going to get at least an extra 14 million from sky so we can afford to spend a bit more than 20 mil I think. Any club thats gets points deducted for investing in players would surley challenge that deduction court - and asuming the club aren't in crippling debt the PL would look to be on dodgy ground. The measuring stick in any case seems to be wages - not transfer fee's - so you could offer a player a whopping signing on fee, but 40k pw wages. I can't believe Man City are within the FFP. If they are they must be fiddling the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 Ok lets be clear. That there are no excuses when the books are balanced now, not what he has previously spent. Lets be clear that FFP penalties come into effect this year which means for the last three years we have needed to comply with it. How does FFP work then ? - so if Randy wants to invest £40m into what is effectively a business - the FA would move in and stop him ? - do you honestly believe that would happen ? I thought FFP only applied to champions league qualifications but maybe i am wrong. In anycase we are going to get at least an extra 14 million from sky so we can afford to spend a bit more than 20 mil I think. Any club thats gets points deducted for investing in players would surley challenge that deduction court - and asuming the club aren't in crippling debt the PL would look to be on dodgy ground. The measuring stick in any case seems to be wages - not transfer fee's - so you could offer a player a whopping signing on fee, but 40k pw wages. I can't believe Man City are within the FFP. If they are they must be fiddling the books. they've got a ludicrous sponsorship deal with etihad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suttonpaul Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Of course they are fiddling the books but they and Chelsea are in the unique position of being able to self sponsor and write their own cheque. Also people forget both clubs have spent a few seasons cost trimming (wages) and both clubs have a vastly greater revenue that say 5 years ago. Chelsea make more than Arsenal now for instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Tonev - I'm a firm believer in giving players at least 2 years. Hold onto him, keep him on the bench and see if he can break through Luna - Not good enough for first XI yet, and unlikely to be. Either he or Bennett needs to go Is there a contradiction there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 Tonev - I'm a firm believer in giving players at least 2 years. Hold onto him, keep him on the bench and see if he can break through Luna - Not good enough for first XI yet, and unlikely to be. Either he or Bennett needs to go Is there a contradiction there? The caveat was him or Bennett. No point keeping both AND getting Bertrand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 In which case then it's Bennett who should go as Luna has been here less than a year.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 In which case then it's Bennett who should go as Luna has been here less than a year.? That'd be up to the manager. You could argue Bennett, being out for most of this season is in the same boat. We have no need for 3 left backs though, so whichever of Luna or Bennett would bring in the most money and/or be easier to shift should go if we get Bertrand in. I'd imagine it'd be Bennett to be honest, but I think there might be merit to converting him to a winger - in which case I'd like us to keep both if we sign Bertrand permanently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 If bennett was good enough we wouldn't have bought Luna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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