slowandlow Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 based on the best goalies thread, brad guzan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetrees Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Well in terms of overrated managers (and I know a lot will go for Paul Lambert) GT has to be overrated for me O'Neill. Bearing in mind that hundreds of people turned up at Villa Park when he signed-I never understood why, and that some still rate him now. I think that he is the worst manager that we have ever had, but whether he is or he isn't, his apparent rating level easily makes him the most overrated manager that we have ever had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Well in terms of overrated managers (and I know a lot will go for Paul Lambert) GT has to be overrated for me O'Neill. Bearing in mind that hundreds of people turned up at Villa Park when he signed-I never understood why, and that some still rate him now. I think that he is the worst manager that we have ever had, but whether he is or he isn't, his apparent rating level easily makes him the most overrated manager that we have ever had. couldn't agree more he'd taken us as far as he could when he left and yet it was only when the money he'd wasted became apparent that the tide seemed to turn, don't really want to flood the thread with my opinion of MON but id had enough of him long before he went same as the players that left, the fact that we replaced him with shit and went on a downward spiral elevates him to something he wasn't 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) Well in terms of overrated managers (and I know a lot will go for Paul Lambert) GT has to be overrated for me O'Neill. Bearing in mind that hundreds of people turned up at Villa Park when he signed-I never understood why, and that some still rate him now. I think that he is the worst manager that we have ever had, but whether he is or he isn't, his apparent rating level easily makes him the most overrated manager that we have ever had. Ha ha, you would need to add a touchette more argumentation to back up a bonkers statement like that. Think there is a very long list of managers in line before you get to MON as the "WORST MANAGER WE EVER HAD". But I suppose fans have a different perspective depending on how long they've been supporting the club. Edited January 23, 2014 by briny_ear 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 For what it's worth Nicky Shorey once took one of the biggest bollockin's of all time at BMH from Martin O' Neill. Yes. I'm sure it happens all the time in training. Well it certainly did that day. I remember a match at Craven Cottage where Shorey was substituted and walked off VERY slowly and looked over to O' Neill and said "w*nker" very publicly as he reached the touch line. I guess they weren't the best of pals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 For what it's worth Nicky Shorey once took one of the biggest bollockin's of all time at BMH from Martin O' Neill. Yes. I'm sure it happens all the time in training. Well it certainly did that day. I remember a match at Craven Cottage where Shorey was substituted and walked off VERY slowly and looked over to O' Neill and said "w*nker" very publicly as he reached the touch line. I guess they weren't the best of pals. Remember that well, it was as clear and distinct as Pardew's "****ing old ****" the other day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Well in terms of overrated managers (and I know a lot will go for Paul Lambert) GT has to be overrated for me O'Neill. Bearing in mind that hundreds of people turned up at Villa Park when he signed-I never understood why, and that some still rate him now. I think that he is the worst manager that we have ever had, but whether he is or he isn't, his apparent rating level easily makes him the most overrated manager that we have ever had. not the worst manager we have ever had.....but contributed to the most financial damage to the club. probably one of the worst in the transfer market bar a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 For what it's worth Nicky Shorey once took one of the biggest bollockin's of all time at BMH from Martin O' Neill. Yes. I'm sure it happens all the time in training. Well it certainly did that day. I remember a match at Craven Cottage where Shorey was substituted and walked off VERY slowly and looked over to O' Neill and said "w*nker" very publicly as he reached the touch line. I guess they weren't the best of pals. very few did like him, but Mellberg detested him. but hey, I guess,its not a popularity parade.....MON wouldn't care a jot anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Well in terms of overrated managers (and I know a lot will go for Paul Lambert) GT has to be overrated for me O'Neill. Bearing in mind that hundreds of people turned up at Villa Park when he signed-I never understood why, and that some still rate him now. I think that he is the worst manager that we have ever had, but whether he is or he isn't, his apparent rating level easily makes him the most overrated manager that we have ever had. I was one of them that was made up, when he come.....biggest change of heart i have ever had towards a Villa Manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powell91 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 vassell was pretty overated tbf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 vassell was pretty overated tbf By Sven maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Well in terms of overrated managers (and I know a lot will go for Paul Lambert) GT has to be overrated for me I am surprised someone of your vintage has said that Richard. You'd be as aware as I am just how much of a mess this great club was in when he came in. For the way he turned this club around in such a short amount of time was nothing short of remarkable. The club was in a massive decline. He got it going in a forward momentum within months. He turned us from an absolute shambles of a club that had just been relegated to the second tier, was on its knees and rotten from top to bottom to one that finished runners up in the top flight all within three years. Whilst achieving the above he purchased unknowns in Platt and Yorke for less than 500k for the two of them. Those two players went on to be sold for over 17 million and the sale of Platt alone allowed Atkinson to build half a team. He of course also purchased God. From top to bottom, from canteen to board room he reshaped the club. He managed to do all this whilst also keeping Ellis in check. The guy deserves the freedom of Birmingham for what he did. Overrated? absolutely no chance it would be impossible to over rate Graham Taylor during his first spell. I did say it would be a controversial opinion Mark It's not controversial, it's just plain wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 For what it's worth Nicky Shorey once took one of the biggest bollockin's of all time at BMH from Martin O' Neill. Yes. I'm sure it happens all the time in training. Well it certainly did that day. I remember a match at Craven Cottage where Shorey was substituted and walked off VERY slowly and looked over to O' Neill and said "w*nker" very publicly as he reached the touch line. I guess they weren't the best of pals. little did we know at the time that Shorey was right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 For what it's worth Nicky Shorey once took one of the biggest bollockin's of all time at BMH from Martin O' Neill. Yes. I'm sure it happens all the time in training. Well it certainly did that day. I remember a match at Craven Cottage where Shorey was substituted and walked off VERY slowly and looked over to O' Neill and said "w*nker" very publicly as he reached the touch line. I guess they weren't the best of pals. little did we know at the time that Shorey was right What are you saying? Takes one to know one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 David Ginola Patrik Berger John Fashanu Chris Sutton Stan Collymore Darius Vassel Lee Hendrie Ricardo Smicae Bosko Balaban Steve Sidwell Nicky Shorey Gary Cahill Luke Moore David Geddis Simon Stainrod Ian Ormeroyd Nigel Callaghan ect ect I have highlighted all of the players in that list who I believe were ever actually overrated by us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Has anyone mentioned Stuart Downing. A functional winger at best with a right foot that is solely for display purposes only. £20m to Liverpool was a robbery any Scouser would have been proud of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irutsun Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Wes Hoolahan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amo69 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 JL Samuel in the year he got called up to the England squad. Was clearly the weak link in a our team and after a couple of good attacking performances was called up for England. Shocking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) Benteke. Half a season wonder. Discuss. Edited January 29, 2014 by momo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpaywasawesome Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 George Boateng. The NRC of his time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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