Why Paul Lambert should get the sack

[StanBalaban]

I'd take Steve Clarke over McClaren any day but I think if we did sack Lambert (which I don't think we will) we should go in the opposite direction and go for a foreign manager who has a bit of flair. My knowledge of foreign football managers isn't all that great though so I can't really suggest any ideal candidates.

 

All academic though, Lambert isn't going anywhere.

Maybe Dr. Jo could come back?

[The_Lions_Roar]

I don't see any of the sack lambert brigade offering proper reasons for sacking him other than home form. We are MIDTABLE were we will probably stay, its a STEADY IMPROVEMENT on the last two seasons. Lambert HAD to buy quantity, because we NEEDED players, and they HAD to be young because WE COULDN'T AFFORD the high wages and fees experienced players command! We are not VIlla challanging for Europe anymore, we are Villa trying to get ourselves out of the mire (This was the situation Lambert INHERITED), you need to get your brains around that! For all the dire football and home results to match he has forge a very hard working team capable of consolidating our position in the league and giving him a base on which to build for the LONG TERM! Lerner will not spend the money required to do things quickly, he tried that already and spunked a 100 million down the drain!

If you look through the threads posters have been able to quote more than home form to substantiate their debate.

Yet no one seems to be able to name a suitable replacement manager.

Suitable to whom though? To you?

Posters have put several names forward but none seemingly were acceptable to the fraternity although that wasn't surprising since it was mainly those who support Lambert who didn't like the suggestions.

Suitable to the club and the way Lerner wants to run the club. I must of missed the suggestions apart from Clarke and McLaren.

[Nabby]

Press all asking questions of his managerial ability now.

 

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jan/05/aston-villa-sheffield-united-fa-cup-match-report?CMP=twt_gu

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa/10552020/Aston-Villa-manager-Paul-Lambert-has-only-himself-to-blame-as-Sheffield-United-pull-off-a-famous-giantkilling.html

[HeyAnty]

I don't see any of the sack lambert brigade offering proper reasons for sacking him other than home form. We are MIDTABLE were we will probably stay, its a STEADY IMPROVEMENT on the last two seasons. Lambert HAD to buy quantity, because we NEEDED players, and they HAD to be young because WE COULDN'T AFFORD the high wages and fees experienced players command! We are not VIlla challanging for Europe anymore, we are Villa trying to get ourselves out of the mire (This was the situation Lambert INHERITED), you need to get your brains around that! For all the dire football and home results to match he has forge a very hard working team capable of consolidating our position in the league and giving him a base on which to build for the LONG TERM! Lerner will not spend the money required to do things quickly, he tried that already and spunked a 100 million down the drain!

If you look through the threads posters have been able to quote more than home form to substantiate their debate.

Yet no one seems to be able to name a suitable replacement manager.

Suitable to whom though? To you?

Posters have put several names forward but none seemingly were acceptable to the fraternity although that wasn't surprising since it was mainly those who support Lambert who didn't like the suggestions.

Suitable to the club and the way Lerner wants to run the club. I must of missed the suggestions apart from Clarke and McLaren.

Brian Little is available after his stint at Gainsborough Trinity.

[dakid007]

Shouldn't be sacked yet. But needs to find a way to get sum confidence back In team

[foreveryoung]

Funny how the media are admitting to him playing dire football and struggling. When all season McLeish was here playing this type of football every game, no disrespect from the media was even thought of.

[lmarsha_926]

No one should be moaning at Lambert for the poor performances at home. the fact that we have won more games on the road than at home since August shows how poor we have been at home in the least 5 years despite all the money we have spent
 

 

[ArteSuave]

Steve Clarke?

Steve McLaren?

Oh my, us villa fans really are fickle.

 

 

I don't think it's fickleness. I'll whisper this but I wouldn't mind Lambert continuing until the Summer at least.

 

Having said that if we do part ways I'd rather we brought in a good English speaking coach like McClaren to help our young squad fulfill their potential rather than a shouty, let players just play, one of the lads, wheeler dealer to bump us to 40 points over the short term.

 

Having already specified I'd prefer English speaking, I wouldn't mind Marcelo Bielsa either. In fact, I'd prefer him to McClaren. Did a reasonable job at Bilbao I thought and is currently out of work.

Edited January 5, 2014 by ArteSuave

[KennyPowers]

The saddest thing is this. 

 

Lambert has said he doesn't care about statistics/analytics and doesn't care about possession. He talks mainly in clichés and when he doesn't he says very little of interest.

 

He appears to be about as far away from a progressive manager as you can get. He likes playing a big target man and concedes territory and possession willingly. It saddens me that so many of us were under the impression he was a progressive manager when we signed him. 

[Morpheus]

I don't see any of the sack lambert brigade offering proper reasons for sacking him other than home form. We are MIDTABLE were we will probably stay, its a STEADY IMPROVEMENT on the last two seasons. Lambert HAD to buy quantity, because we NEEDED players, and they HAD to be young because WE COULDN'T AFFORD the high wages and fees experienced players command! We are not VIlla challanging for Europe anymore, we are Villa trying to get ourselves out of the mire (This was the situation Lambert INHERITED), you need to get your brains around that! For all the dire football and home results to match he has forge a very hard working team capable of consolidating our position in the league and giving him a base on which to build for the LONG TERM! Lerner will not spend the money required to do things quickly, he tried that already and spunked a 100 million down the drain!

If you look through the threads posters have been able to quote more than home form to substantiate their debate.

Yet no one seems to be able to name a suitable replacement manager.

Suitable to whom though? To you?

Posters have put several names forward but none seemingly were acceptable to the fraternity although that wasn't surprising since it was mainly those who support Lambert who didn't like the suggestions.

Suitable to the club and the way Lerner wants to run the club. I must of missed the suggestions apart from Clarke and McLaren.

There have been one or two others put forward foreign and closer to home.

Personally I think McClaren would be ideal in that he took himself away after the England debacle and has steadily rebuilt his reputation gaining experience abroad and now getting Derby playing some lovely football. With his experience gained abroad I'm sure he would have build up enough contacts there to have a decent scouting network as well and wouldn't be too bothered about working to a budget if he got the opportunity to manage back in top flight football again. I also feel he would get us playing more progressive football than Lambert but that's only my opinion.

However I still think Lambert should be given one more transfer window to get it right with wage outlay now down to a level where we should be bringing more experience quality in but that will come down to budget and Lambert's choice of player, both of which haven't been great so far.

[Risso]

Press all asking questions of his managerial ability now.

 

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jan/05/aston-villa-sheffield-united-fa-cup-match-report?CMP=twt_gu

 

 

 

About time people noticed that this emperor has no clothes on.  That Graun report in full [my bolding]

 

Paul Lambert must have been grateful that he spent more time post-match defending his comments about the FA Cup than dissecting yet another inept home performance. Whatever Lambert thinks of this competition is a sideshow compared with the real issues, which are how much longer Villa supporters will continue to tolerate such dire football and whether the manager is capable of turning things round.

Randy Lerner, Villa's owner, remains supportive of Lambert but the fans, judging by their reaction in the last three home matches, are losing patience. Lambert's team has been booed off on each occasion and on Saturday the hostility towards the manager was ramped up a notch. Villa's league position – 11th in the table – hides a multitude of sins that were humiliatingly exposed by a Sheffield United side languishing a point above the League One relegation zone.

Villa have one way of playing: counterattacking. When the onus is on Lambert's side to break down opponents, as it was always going to be against a team 51 places below them on the league ladder, they look clueless. Their football was slow, prosaic and, by Lambert's own admission, desperately lacking creativity – a recurrent theme at a stadium where Villa have won only twice and scored seven times in 10 league fixtures this season.

For Lambert the walk from the dugout to the tunnel at the end of a game must feel as though it is getting longer by the week. Abuse rained down from the Trinity Road Stand as he made his way along the touchline and back to the sanctuary of the home dressing room. He had plenty of goodwill to fall back on when he replaced Alex McLeish as manager 18 months ago but last season chipped away at those reserves.

Villa suffered the ignominy of conceding 15 goals without reply against Chelsea, Tottenham Hotspur and Wigan across the festive programme 12 months ago. Then there was the embarrassing Capital One Cup semi-final defeat by League Two Bradford City. Three days later Villa were knocked out of the FA Cup by Millwall. The blows kept coming and Villa looked in danger of being relegated, yet Lambert to his credit galvanised the players and they finished the campaign impressively.

What nobody at the club bargained for was another winter of discontent. This was Villa's fifth defeat in seven matches but it is the insipid performances, particularly at home, that are arguably more worrying than the results. Asked whether he sympathised with the home fans, Lambert said: "It must be frustrating as anything for them, so I understand. I'm not naive. They wonder how can we win at Sunderland [on New Year's Day] and turn up today and not perform. That's the frustration that, I think, comes through."

The brutal truth is that too many of the Villa players – the majority signed by Lambert – are not good enough. He badly needs to freshen things up in this transfer window and the priority has to be an attacking midfielder to inject some imagination into a one-dimensional team. "I call them No10s," the Villa manager said. "They're a special type of player, they know how to get into little pockets on the pitch to try and make things happen and that's something you try and look at. They're worth their weight in gold if you can get them – and pretty dear."

It would also help if Christian Benteke could rediscover his mojo in the second half of the season. Benteke has gone 12 games without scoring and although Lambert denied the striker was suffering from a lack of confidence, the two misdirected close-range headers at the end of the first half suggested otherwise.

By that point United were already ahead, courtesy of Jamie Murphy's deflected shot in the 20th minute. Roared on by 6,000 travelling supporters, Nigel Clough's side played with confidence and spirit and fully deserved this scalp. Even when Villa levelled through Nicklas Helenius, the visitors refused to lie down. Six minutes later Ryan Flynn, a former FA Youth Cup winner with Liverpool, cracked a superb left-footed shot beyond Jed Steer to complete a glorious day for a club that has hit hard times.

"To get a result like this will renew a lot of people's faith," Clough said. "You see the supporters and how much it means to them. I think it'll give them a bit of belief back that Sheffield United can get back at least into the Championship. There's incredible potential. Somebody said the club's a bit like an oil tanker; it takes some turning but once you get it turning and going in the right direction, then it will start steaming along. We are trying to get to that point."

[foreveryoung]

The saddest thing is this. 

 

Lambert has said he doesn't care about statistics/analytics and doesn't care about possession. He talks mainly in clichés and when he doesn't he says very little of interest.

 

He appears to be about as far away from a progressive manager as you can get. He likes playing a big target man and concedes territory and possession willingly. It saddens me that so many of us were under the impression he was a progressive manager when we signed him. 

This sounds to much like O'Neil and I f******* hated O'Neil. Needs to shake off this tag and start playing some decent football. It'll end up lambert needing 100 milion to even start mproving the team.

[Avflife]

Firstly I will say I think we have a very good manager, who needs to be given the time to properly implement the project. 

 

The home form has been dreadful, and is the main reason for the fans being on his back.  If we had the same points and in the same league position only with our away wins coming at home instead then there would be a lot less fans on his back. I don't think anyone can argue with this and if you feel you can then clearly your expectations are unrealistic.

 

At the start of the season 99% on this site said they would be happy with a comfortable midtable finish.  We are in a comfortable midtable position right now.  We are a team that clearly lacks creativity in midfield, but we have pace and power up front. So Lambert has simply set us up to play to that strength. Defend deep draw the opponents on to us and hit them on the counter. The problem is this doesn't work against teams around our level when playing at home.

 

The reason we win more games when we have less possession is a clear indicator that our countering tactic is working, which is why we are 11th when on NET money spent over the last 2 season we are probably 17th or 18th in the league.

 

The comments about the FA cup were bull, Lambert never said do without, he simply stated the obvious that The premier league is more important! Why because if we get relegated but win the cup like wigan it puts us in a WORSE position, where we would be right back at the beginning of the rebuild, instead of halfway through, only with less money to spend!

 

VILLA namely the OWNER, CEO and MANAGER have taken a LONG TERM approach to rebuilding the squad and moving up the table, because to owner is not willing the be the clubs sugar daddy, he wants the club to stand on it own two feet! There is nothing wrong with this! If Lambert gets sacked now things will be MUCH worse! What top manager would want to manage a team that has no money to spend and whose fans boo their team at home if we aren't winning! Every halftime if we are drawing or losing BOOOOOOOO! It disgusts me! Get behind your team! These lads bust a gut almost every game!

 

Until Benteke and then Vlaar got injured people were pretty satisfied (apart from the home form). We have had most of the season so far with Benteke out of form, Our new tasty looking CB out injured for the season, Then Vlaar gets injured and now Kozak (who has struggled to adapt but still got a almost goal every other game ratio) breaks his leg!  Terrible luck with injuries to our best players, not to mention Gabby has missed a few and is probably carrying a couple of knocks. Lambert's record with transfers is solid, the players he has signed as a collective are worth more now then what we paid for them, he has got the wage down, and is preserving our premier league status, more than that at this stage is unrealistic.

 

Compare this December / Jan period with last seasons, there is a clear improvement in results and league position. This team is a Benteke goal and sustained return to fitness of  Vlaar away from a run of sustained positive results.  We are going through a bad patch this happens with young teams, hell this happens with all premier league teams that aren't top 8 quality! And our Home form is one quality creative playmaker and a quality attacking mid of being turned around.  Our defensive resilience this season (combined with the excellent work ethic) has meant we are very rarely out of any match, it certainly isn't pretty to watch but the foundation is there, the right midfielder and attacking midfielder in and we will have a good first team with everyone fit, with young hardworking and improving players to come in.  This is the best first week of Jan league position we have had since MON's last season in charge, things are definitely improving albeit slowly, but slow and steady is fine because what the club needs more than anything is stability and we will destroy the little bit of stability we has got if we sack the manager now!. 

Very impressive read, but to say 'we are comfortable mid-table' and 'Lambert's record of signings is solid' is complete crap. Firstly we are six points off the relegation zone, defeat to Liverpool and Arsenal will mean we are most likely down there in serious trouble again. Secondly out of PL's 16 signings, how many do you honestly think are of Premier League quality, 3 are certainties for me (Benteke, Vlaar and Guzan) and I'm undecided on three, Westwood, Helenius and Bacuna.

[TRO]

No one should be moaning at Lambert for the poor performances at home. the fact that we have won more games on the road than at home since August shows how poor we have been at home in the least 5 years despite all the money we have spent

 

 

 this problem has been around for yonks...... just no action.

[Avflife]

 

Steve Clarke?

Steve McLaren?

Oh my, us villa fans really are fickle.

 

 

I don't think it's fickleness. I'll whisper this but I wouldn't mind Lambert continuing until the Summer at least.

 

Having said that if we do part ways I'd rather we brought in a good English speaking coach like McClaren to help our young squad fulfill their potential rather than a shouty, let players just play, one of the lads, wheeler dealer to bump us to 40 points over the short term.

 

Having already specified I'd prefer English speaking, I wouldn't mind Marcelo Bielsa either. In fact, I'd prefer him to McClaren. Did a reasonable job at Bilbao I thought and is currently out of work.

 

Would be head over heels if we were able to get Marcelo Bielsa in, probably one of the best managers without a job atm.

[Isa]

No one should be moaning at Lambert for the poor performances at home. the fact that we have won more games on the road than at home since August shows how poor we have been at home in the least 5 years despite all the money we have spent

 

 

 this problem has been around for yonks...... just no action.

Yet Lambert has the worst home record out of all those managers during that time. Strange that...

[HeyAnty]

No one should be moaning at Lambert for the poor performances at home. the fact that we have won more games on the road than at home since August shows how poor we have been at home in the least 5 years despite all the money we have spent

this problem has been around for yonks...... just no action.

Yet Lambert has the worst home record out of all those managers during that time. Strange that...

Thought you were avoiding VT hencewith ?

[GENTLEMAN]

 

The saddest thing is this. 

 

Lambert has said he doesn't care about statistics/analytics and doesn't care about possession. He talks mainly in clichés and when he doesn't he says very little of interest.

 

He appears to be about as far away from a progressive manager as you can get. He likes playing a big target man and concedes territory and possession willingly. It saddens me that so many of us were under the impression he was a progressive manager when we signed him. 

This sounds to much like O'Neil and I f******* hated O'Neil. Needs to shake off this tag and start playing some decent football. It'll end up lambert needing 100 milion to even start mproving the team.

 

Obviously, I do not agree with the two posts above. Lambert ideally wanted to sign better players like Lukaku and Kiyotake to strengthen the team and enhance the overall quality, but PL has had to deal with financial restrictions placed upon him. 

 

I would like to see Lambert signing his number one choices and having a fully fit side available to judge his true ability. It is sad people will not give Lambert until to the end of his current contract to improve matters.

[Risso]

 

 

The saddest thing is this. 

 

Lambert has said he doesn't care about statistics/analytics and doesn't care about possession. He talks mainly in clichés and when he doesn't he says very little of interest.

 

He appears to be about as far away from a progressive manager as you can get. He likes playing a big target man and concedes territory and possession willingly. It saddens me that so many of us were under the impression he was a progressive manager when we signed him. 

This sounds to much like O'Neil and I f******* hated O'Neil. Needs to shake off this tag and start playing some decent football. It'll end up lambert needing 100 milion to even start mproving the team.

 

Obviously, I do not agree with the two posts above. Lambert ideally wanted to sign better players like Lukaku and Kiyotake to strengthen the team and enhance the overall quality, but PL has had to deal with financial restrictions placed upon him. 

 

I would like to see Lambert signing his number one choices and having a fully fit side available to judge his true ability. It is sad people will not give Lambert until to the end of his current contract to improve matters.

 

 

and yet he blew £7m on Kozak.

[Harry]

I don't see any of the sack lambert brigade offering proper reasons for sacking him other than home form.  We are MIDTABLE were we will probably stay, its a STEADY IMPROVEMENT on the last two seasons. Lambert HAD to buy quantity, because we NEEDED players, and they HAD to be young because WE COULDN'T AFFORD the high wages and fees experienced players command! We are not VIlla challanging for Europe anymore, we are Villa trying to get ourselves out of the mire (This was the situation Lambert INHERITED), you need to get your brains around that! For all the dire football and home results to match he has forge a very hard working team capable of consolidating our position in the league and giving him a base on which to build for the LONG TERM! Lerner will not spend the money required to do things quickly, he tried that already and spunked a 100 million down the drain!

Probably the most deluded post ever. 'Hard working team capable of consolidating our position in the league' . Have you watched Villa recently??? We are the most **** disorganised mess of team led by a clown of a manager. Beaten by a relegation threatened League 1 side yesterday who were far better organised and motivated and better led