The_Rev Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 With your fondness for strict geographical rules TRS-T, I though you would take delight in the fact that only one of those two clubs actually play their home games in the city of Manchester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Clough stayiing on would have been irrelevant after a while due to more and more money into the game. Since the early 1980s ie after Forest it has been impossible for any provincial club to have major success in England. Only Blackburn funded by Walker in the 1990s goes against this. Same as Gladbach in Germany after the 1970s, a town of about 250,000 it just too small to be a major power in european football. Yes but they would probably have won 5 leagues and 3 european cups by then and a big buyer would have come in for them. To me there's nothing between forest and Derby. Both provincial clubs like you say. The sad thing for me is that Birmingham is the 2nd city and we are the biggest club but probably only about 8th biggest in the Country. It might help if more people from our very large city went down to support us now and again. For the cities two clubs to muster a combined 45,000ish per home game is pretty crap and doesn't help the profile of the area at all imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Clough stayiing on would have been irrelevant after a while due to more and more money into the game. Since the early 1980s ie after Forest it has been impossible for any provincial club to have major success in England. Only Blackburn funded by Walker in the 1990s goes against this. Same as Gladbach in Germany after the 1970s, a town of about 250,000 it just too small to be a major power in european football. Yes but they would probably have won 5 leagues and 3 european cups by then and a big buyer would have come in for them. To me there's nothing between forest and Derby. Both provincial clubs like you say. The sad thing for me is that Birmingham is the 2nd city and we are the biggest club but probably only about 8th biggest in the Country. It might help if more people from our very large city went down to support us now and again. For the cities two clubs to muster a combined 45,000ish per home game is pretty crap and doesn't help the profile of the area at all imo. Not at all. We're on a par with Everton and they are Liverpool's second biggest club. So 35/36k a week is ok for a 2nd club but not that great for this City's premiere club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toela65 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 I never think Newcastle are under achievers, never consider them that big, hate this attendances argument they cook up to suit themselves, their sense of entitlement is shocking Liverpool for me, 13 league titles in 25 years followed by 0 in the next 25... What about all the other trophies besides the league title won in that 23 year period? Do they not count or something? Underachievement/achievement is measured by trophies won and/or league position. I'd agree LFC have massively underachieved since 2009 (although did win a trophy in 2012) given cash/size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Lions_Roar Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Spurs maybe ? They're considered as a big force now .. Although they didn't win anything other than a league cup in the recent years if I'm not mistaken .. I think that's because the League these 2-3 years are much more harder than it was before ! You need to do a great work to achieve 5th or 6th ! I'd say spurs too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 dont know, think they overachieved on Sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Yeah to be fair Liverpool have amassed a shed load of other trophies since last winning the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Leeds are taking 7k fans to blackburn today, I know it aint that far from leeds but still tremendous support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 P.s blackburn are set to make over 250.000 in ticket sales alone from the leeds support add to that food and drink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Leeds have always had brilliant away support, seems to have even increased in the 10 years they've been slumming it in the lower leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers13 Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 P.s blackburn are set to make over 250.000 in ticket sales alone from the leeds support add to that food and drink That's like .7% of what the club lost last year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 I remember a game in the early 90s it was on a sunday and on sky, and they had a small following that day, think we won 1 nil, its the consistency that impresses me, a lot of clubs would take thousands away in their first couple of years but if they still fount themselves down their it would dwindle, leeds have kept it up year after year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 And so they should. Leeds is a one club city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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