Rugeley Villa Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 I don't think leeds are the 3rd biggest club I just think their support is, granted arsenal nowadays have huge support but to be fair I don't see many arsenal fans about apart from down south, I know 1 arsenal fan and I probaly know about 20 odd leeds fans in my town, arsenal chelsea and to a degree man city will have had a big rise in support due to their success, arsenal and chelsea may surpass leeds due to that but I would not bank on it, when they were at the play off final they had over 120.000 applications for tickets, makes you wonder why elland road aint fuller on matchday, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 You would be very surprised how well they are supported, just my opinion and I may be wrong but they are definately in the top 6, but I still stand by what I said, My uncle is a Leeds fan, goes to many away games, but very few home games. He himself has said Villa and Leeds are on a par with support, I would agree with him. It's definitely Arsenal 3rd(if not 2nd) then probably Spurs, they are massive in London and the surrounding areas, which is massive remember, Chelsea then Newcastle, then Everton, Us, Man City, Leeds and Sunderland in no real order. West Ham as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 You would be very surprised how well they are supported, just my opinion and I may be wrong but they are definately in the top 6, but I still stand by what I said, My uncle is a Leeds fan, goes to many away games, but very few home games. He himself has said Villa and Leeds are on a par with support, I would agree with him. It's definitely Arsenal 3rd(if not 2nd) then probably Spurs, they are massive in London and the surrounding areas, which is massive remember, Chelsea then Newcastle, then Everton, Us, Man City, Leeds and Sunderland in no real order. yea its all about the away games with leeds fans, if any clubs are above leeds I'd go for arsenal and maybe spurs, just seems to me that leeds have support all over the country where as your hard pressed to find arsenal and spurs up north, everton have a good nationwide fanbase aswell, I'd go man utd,liverpool,leeds,arsenal,spurs, chelsea,everton,newcastle,villa,mancity,then either sunderland or west ham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted November 17, 2013 Moderator Share Posted November 17, 2013 West Ham as well. They're not a big club. A couple of cups is about right for them I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 obviously not a club but if this Germany team doesnt win a tournament in 2014 or 2016 they will be among biggest underachievers for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 West Ham as well. They're not a big club. A couple of cups is about right for them I think. I don't rate them as a big club, they have decent support but that's it, rate wolves as bigger club than the hammers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 West Ham as well. They're not a big club. A couple of cups is about right for them I think. I don't rate them as a big club, they have decent support but that's it, rate wolves as bigger club than the hammers yeah but they won the World Cup and play traditional great attacking football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 West Ham as well.They're not a big club. A couple of cups is about right for them I think.I don't rate them as a big club, they have decent support but that's it, rate wolves as bigger club than the hammers yeah but they won the World Cup and play traditional great attacking football that's why I don't like west ham because of the media wankfest over them, media darlings which makes me sick, the proper londoners as they are called, give me millwall any day of the week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Leeds get big support in Scandanavia for some reason don't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Yea they have big support their, seem to have big support all over to be fair, it stems from the 60s and 70s because apart from that and a couple of breif moments in the 90s they have no history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 By that criteria, who does? Us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 West Ham as well. They're not a big club. A couple of cups is about right for them I think. They are. They're not a successful club but they are a big club. Blackburn Rovers have won loads but no way are they bigger than West Ham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 West Ham have won 4 trophies in their whole entire history, that puts them on a par with our neighbors down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted November 18, 2013 Moderator Share Posted November 18, 2013 They're not a big club. A couple of cups is about right for them I think. They are. They're not a successful club but they are a big club. Blackburn Rovers have won loads but no way are they bigger than West Ham.I suppose it all depends on how you define 'big'. It's a very subjective term. They're big compared to the teams in the bottom 2 divisions in England and most of the Championship, so in a 92 team 'big' league table they'd be well above midtable, but they're not as big as the majority of the Premier League and a few of the sides in the Championship which is why I don't see them as particularly deserving of anything more than what they've won over their history. In that sense I don't think they've underachieved or overachieved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 They're big in the sense that they have a high profile. I do wonder if they're more well known than we are internationally. Sad if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 They're not a big club. A couple of cups is about right for them I think. They are. They're not a successful club but they are a big club. Blackburn Rovers have won loads but no way are they bigger than West Ham. I suppose it all depends on how you define 'big'. It's a very subjective term. They're big compared to the teams in the bottom 2 divisions in England and most of the Championship, so in a 92 team 'big' league table they'd be well above midtable, but they're not as big as the majority of the Premier League and a few of the sides in the Championship which is why I don't see them as particularly deserving of anything more than what they've won over their history. In that sense I don't think they've underachieved or overachieved. I define a big club as one with a big fanbase. A club that has won a lot of trophies I would define as a successful club. Success attracts fans though so the two become conflated. I would put West Ham in the top 10 biggest in the league what with Leeds being in the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 (edited) It has to be Newcastle who my living memory have won nothing. Leeds were never a big club until Don Revie made them successful Edited November 18, 2013 by PaulC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted November 18, 2013 Moderator Share Posted November 18, 2013 I agree Paul and I think they win it by a mile. So that's another 'trophy' for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Yea leeds were a nothing club until the mid to late 60s,they have a decent history now but what I should of said in my earlier post was that until the 60s they were nothing instead of saying they hardly have any history, same with forest, up until the late 70s they were nothing but now they are considered a big club, teams like us everton arsenal utd and liverpool have history that goes back to the start of football and these clubs have a huge history, west ham seem bigger than they are because of the media's love of them and because their a london club, they are in my eyes a smaller club than forest wolves sheff weds, teams like blackburn have a great history aswell but are a relatively small club, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Were Man United really anything before the 50's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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