The_Rev Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 If Palace got stuffed 4-1 at home to Fulham, and Sunderland lost to Palace... the real question is, just how bad are Sunderland?! Football doesn't work like that. We beat Arsenal and Manchester City but it doesn't mean we are going to finish in the top four. Sunderland are gash though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 If Palace got stuffed 4-1 at home to Fulham, and Sunderland lost to Palace... the real question is, just how bad are Sunderland?! Football doesn't work like that. We beat Arsenal and Manchester City but it doesn't mean we are going to finish in the top four. Sunderland are gash though. To be fair though, that was Palace's only win so far this season and Sunderland haven't even won at all. I do agree with what you're saying but Sunderland must be really really bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 http://www.thingsthathavemorepointsthansunderland.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted October 22, 2013 Moderator Share Posted October 22, 2013 I can see Arsenal putting 6 past them next wkend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Wouldn't even be surprised if Arsenal rest Giroud for that game given how poor Palace are. A Bendtner hattrick would be amusing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 If we don't get better quality into our midfield and a bit more physicality then i wouldn't rule out another struggle this season. Palace are rank and will go down so two places up for grabs and i feel one won't be taken by Sunderland who will spend big in january to get out of trouble. Fulham also will have too much quality to go down and will score enough to be safe however if we loose Benteke again with a long term injury and Lerner doesn't invest in January then we'll be in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 I see Norwich fan accused of racially abusing their own manager. hughton isnt doing a great job but that is disgusting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 If we don't get better quality into our midfield and a bit more physicality then i wouldn't rule out another struggle this season. Palace are rank and will go down so two places up for grabs and i feel one won't be taken by Sunderland who will spend big in january to get out of trouble. Fulham also will have too much quality to go down and will score enough to be safe however if we loose Benteke again with a long term injury and Lerner doesn't invest in January then we'll be in trouble. I think we'll be ok. Hull are much worse than us and January may be too late for Sunderland. A new manager is suppose to give them a lift but that 4-0 defeat at Swansea will crush them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 We will be fine this season. We have had a horrific fixture list and are still sitting midtable. There are plenty more points for us in the weeks to come. Especially over Christmas which makes a nice change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 I think we'll be fine but wouldn't be surprised if we flirt with relegation again. The November/December period will tell us a lot. Pretty much all winnable games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockStockVilla Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 If we don't get better quality into our midfield and a bit more physicality then i wouldn't rule out another struggle this season. Palace are rank and will go down so two places up for grabs and i feel one won't be taken by Sunderland who will spend big in january to get out of trouble. Fulham also will have too much quality to go down and will score enough to be safe however if we loose Benteke again with a long term injury and Lerner doesn't invest in January then we'll be in trouble. See QPR last season. Boat loads of cash and the messiah that is Redknapp couldn't save them from the drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 It's no guarantee of success but don't try to pretend it never works. Newcastle spunked a load of cash in January too and stayed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted October 22, 2013 Moderator Share Posted October 22, 2013 It's one of those basic logic thingamejigs. Money doesn't guarantee success but there is no success without money. More true than ever in today's game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 It's no guarantee of success but don't try to pretend it never works. Newcastle spunked a load of cash in January too and stayed up. different situation though, QPR were rock bottom and at start of window Newcastle were 15th and finished 16th in table so the new signings didnt really have that positive look on the team 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted October 22, 2013 Moderator Share Posted October 22, 2013 I don't think Newcastle would have gone down last season even without adding to their squad in Jan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
privateer Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 I agree that both Palace and Sunderland are both already dead men playing but I'm not as confident as some of you on here seem to be about our guaranteed survival or non-involvement in the relegation dogfight for 3rd from bottom. When we are more than 3 points off that place, I'll be a little more confident. A nice 6/8/10 point margin and I'll get in the boat with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockStockVilla Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 It's no guarantee of success but don't try to pretend it never works. Newcastle spunked a load of cash in January too and stayed up. different situation though, QPR were rock bottom and at start of window Newcastle were 15th and finished 16th in table so the new signings didnt really have that positive look on the team Yeah, I mean I am not naive enough to think that the spending of money makes no difference at all...but there are definite parallels so far between QPR last season and Sunderland this. Absolutely atrocious form and a squad consisting of around 10 new players. If they carry on like they have until December/January, I'm pretty sure no amount of money within reason would save them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 I agree that both Palace and Sunderland are both already dead men playing but I'm not as confident as some of you on here seem to be about our guaranteed survival or non-involvement in the relegation dogfight for 3rd from bottom. When we are more than 3 points off that place, I'll be a little more confident. A nice 6/8/10 point margin and I'll get in the boat with you. In our first 8 games we have amazingly played all of the top 5 in the Premier League. It couldn't have been tougher so on reflection 10 points is pretty. After the Everton games lets hope it gets a little easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oaks Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 I think these 2 will struggle to get to 25 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted October 22, 2013 Moderator Share Posted October 22, 2013 I think these 2 will struggle to get to 25 points. Put together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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