turnbull Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Didn't see much of the game, but from what I did see, it didn't look a classic. Still, it was just the sort of game we would/could have blown last season, so I won't complain too much. Just draw a line under it and go again move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 I can't see any progress at all in the team. Mostly this unfortunately. Yes apart from the fact that we would have never looked like beating Arsenal and City last season, never mind keep a clean sheet. We’ve managed both, i suggest to look up progress means and then check again... Ok, let me put it this way... Do you think we're playing better football now than we were, say, the last 8/9 games last season? No, of course not, we looked a pretty good outfit at the end of last season, had we played that way from the start, no doubt we'd have finished top half. This season we look to have gone backwards, there's no point bleating on about the Citeh game, that was a game we shouldn't have won, and the Gooner game was just a freakshow, every team gets those once or twice a season. I admire your optimism, I really do, unfortunately I don't see it that way. True we are not playing as well as the backend of last season, but we have made progress compared to the way we started last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heid3ster Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Happy with the clean sheet, satisfied with a point, happy with our current league position, but that's about the end of the positives. We were the better team but that is not saying much -- essentially, we were slightly less crap than Hull. Delph MOTM by a long way. Gabby was the only player on the pitch (for both teams) who looked like scoring, so once he came off it was pretty much over. The decision to take him off must have been due to fitness, otherwise I am baffled. Our bench was depressing. Kozak to me looks like a guy who is not quite in tune yet with his teammates, which to me is not particularly surprising. I am not making excuses for him, just calling it as I see it. I think he'll get there with a bit more time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponky Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 I can't see any progress at all in the team. Mostly this unfortunately. Yes apart from the fact that we would have never looked like beating Arsenal and City last season, never mind keep a clean sheet. We’ve managed both, i suggest to look up progress means and then check again... Ok, let me put it this way... Do you think we're playing better football now than we were, say, the last 8/9 games last season? No, of course not, we looked a pretty good outfit at the end of last season, had we played that way from the start, no doubt we'd have finished top half. This season we look to have gone backwards, there's no point bleating on about the Citeh game, that was a game we shouldn't have won, and the Gooner game was just a freakshow, every team gets those once or twice a season. I admire your optimism, I really do, unfortunately I don't see it that way. True we are not playing as well as the backend of last season, but we have made progress compared to the way we started last season. We also had the most prolific scorer in Europe in five of those last six games. It tends to make a difference when that sort of calibre player is not playing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Happy with the clean sheet, satisfied with a point, happy with our current league position, but that's about the end of the positives. We were the better team but that is not saying much -- essentially, we were slightly less crap than Hull. Delph MOTM by a long way. Gabby was the only player on the pitch (for both teams) who looked like scoring, so once he came off it was pretty much over. The decision to take him off must have been due to fitness, otherwise I am baffled. Our bench was depressing. Kozak to me looks like a guy who is not quite in tune yet with his teammates, which to me is not particularly surprising. I am not making excuses for him, just calling it as I see it. I think he'll get there with a bit more time. He looked like he was struggling a bit 2nd half. He was great first half though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 I can't see any progress at all in the team. Mostly this unfortunately. Yes apart from the fact that we would have never looked like beating Arsenal and City last season, never mind keep a clean sheet. We’ve managed both, i suggest to look up progress means and then check again... Ok, let me put it this way... Do you think we're playing better football now than we were, say, the last 8/9 games last season? No, of course not, we looked a pretty good outfit at the end of last season, had we played that way from the start, no doubt we'd have finished top half. This season we look to have gone backwards, there's no point bleating on about the Citeh game, that was a game we shouldn't have won, and the Gooner game was just a freakshow, every team gets those once or twice a season. I admire your optimism, I really do, unfortunately I don't see it that way. True we are not playing as well as the backend of last season, but we have made progress compared to the way we started last season. We also had the most prolific scorer in Europe in five of those last six games. It tends to make a difference when that sort of calibre player is not playing! Yes we got lucky against City but we will struggle to win matches without Benteke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Didnt see any of it today. however pleased to see a zero in the goals against column. I heard we should have been ahead in the first half. any truth in this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.I.C.O. Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Two points dropped really, which could prove costly further down the line. Typical Villa to put in a crap performance after the Man City game. We just never seem to build on anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panto_Villan Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Oh, Hull are above us in the table. They're probably not THAT awful a side then... Does anyone have a new barrel? I seem to have worn the bottom out of this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poitier Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 It was embarrassing how many times we turned away from a pass into midfield just so we could play it back to Guzan to hoof it up the pitch for Kozak, who failed to win much of anything. I'm sure he would appreciate a few more crosses to get after, but he needs to do better. Happy with a point but pretty hard to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giro Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 What's with all the posts about Darren Bent? I don't get it? Slept this afternoon due to illness. Didn't miss much by the sound of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nokesy Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Any team outside the big 5 who do there homewok will gladly allow us to play, stopping our only weapon which is counter attacking, we just dont have the creativity to break teams down, so frustrating to see the ball go back to guzan time and time again. Way too narrow teams find us remarkably easy to defend against. Kozak for such a tall bloke won hardly anything in the air n his touch looks woeful. Positives.. a clean sheet and a point is still a decent result, and delph is really starting to look like a player. He just lacks that creative pass that we lack, if he can find that then this boy will go far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danwichmann Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 7 points, 2 clean sheets and a positive goal difference from the last 3 games. I would have snapped anyone's arm off for that before the Norwich game so not going to worry too much about today. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 More positives than negatives from that game. 7 points in 3 games and a clean sheet vs Hull who have just beaten Newcastle and West Ham. Onwards and upwards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 (edited) More over reactions on here after what was a decent display. We had by far the better chances and never looked like conceding. Hull were well orgainsed and difficult to break down. We lacked the creativity to dissect their defence and we were very narrow with too many long balls. On the plus side Delph looked good as did bacuna but weimann was poor. We are far away from being a team who can expect to beat any side in the league away from home. Again we showed were are a midtable side who will challenge for a Top ten position. Hull showed they'll not get over 40 points this season or probably not anywhere close to that. Edited October 5, 2013 by villa89 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted October 5, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted October 5, 2013 We shouldn't be so negative after this. It wasn't pretty but boys did enough to win the game. Just couldn't finish. Gabby had the best chance, I actually thought it would go in when he shot from the pass by Andi. The level of our play is going to be like this all season since we don't have that AM, so just get used to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambridge-AVFC Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Hull haven't lost a home game this year, so its not the end of the world. Its laughable that after a draw, people are claiming that 'we haven't progressed'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcTheObsession Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 I can't see any progress at all in the team. Mostly this unfortunately. So keeping back to back clean sheets Away from home and generally being a lot more Solid defensively is 'no progress at all'? Ok chaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchard Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Is it possible to be pleased and disappointed at the same time? Happy we've got a point, and pleased with the clean sheet but disappointed we once again were in charge of a game and failed to create or score. I think had Benteke or Bent been playing, rather than Kozak, we may have come away with three points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted October 5, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted October 5, 2013 I think had Benteke or Bent been playing, rather than Kozak, we may have come away with three points. Has he became that mythical figure already? What about Bannan? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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