magnkarl Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, duke313 said: If that is one of the criteria, why is USA getting to host it again? You mean USA, Mexico and Canada? Mexico has the largest football audience in the Americas, the US has a league that is up and coming and have qualified for the World Cup for years and years and Canada also has a decent league. Compare that to Qatar for me please. Are you seriously trying to compare a one city nation of a total landmass of Northern Ireland and a population of an average European city with the whole of North America? Edited November 18, 2022 by magnkarl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 New York Times reporting Budweiser deal off 48 hours before the tournament starts. The deal was only worth a cool $75m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 1 minute ago, magnkarl said: You mean USA, Mexico and Canada? Mexico has the largest football audience in the Americas, the US has a league that is up and coming and have qualified for the World Cup for years and years and Canada also has a decent league. Compare that to Qatar for me please. lol, what? Mexico aside, USA and Canada don't have a 'football culture', and the USA certainly didn't when they were awarded the World Cup in '94. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, duke313 said: If that is one of the criteria, why is USA getting to host it again? Remind me, which footballing nation got further in the very first World Cup. USA or England? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 1 minute ago, duke313 said: lol, what? Mexico aside, USA and Canada don't have a 'football culture', and the USA certainly didn't when they were awarded the World Cup in '94. Whataboutism at its finest. You exclude a country that is prepared, has the facilities, has something like 50 million people watching football every week (USA), but don't see the issue with a country like Qatar? And of course, jump straight over the fact that Mexico and Canada is also hosting it, which you didn't seem to know. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 11 minutes ago, magnkarl said: You mean USA, Mexico and Canada? Mexico has the largest football audience in the Americas, the US has a league that is up and coming and have qualified for the World Cup for years and years and Canada also has a decent league. Compare that to Qatar for me please. Are you seriously trying to compare a one city nation of a total landmass of Northern Ireland and a population of an average European city with the whole of North America? The Qatari league is probably a higher standard than the Canadian league. 3 or 4 Canadian teams play in MLS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Zatman said: The Qatari league is probably a higher standard than the Canadian league. 3 or 4 Canadian teams play in MLS It may be. But compare the combine Mexican-American and Canadian league systems with Qatar and there's not really a discussion to be had. It's a non-argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, Zatman said: The Qatari league is probably a higher standard than the Canadian league. 3 or 4 Canadian teams play in MLS Canada qualified for this tournament on merit though, would Qatar have achieved that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ml1dch Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Zatman said: Apparently is a meeting today on whether to ban "alcohol" from stadiums Budweiser will be looking at a big payout from FIFA after this Smashing stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Give it some hours and homosexuals will be out too. Infantino will be swimming in his own sweat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted November 18, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted November 18, 2022 Absolute farce. This World Cup is a disaster. I've never felt less enthusiastic for an international tournament before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 14 minutes ago, magnkarl said: Whataboutism at its finest. You exclude a country that is prepared, has the facilities, has something like 50 million people watching football every week (USA), but don't see the issue with a country like Qatar? And of course, jump straight over the fact that Mexico and Canada is also hosting it, which you didn't seem to know. I'm fully aware who is hosting the 2026 World Cup, my point was around 'football culture'. It could be argued that the 50 million people in the USA who watch football now, do so because the sport was allowed to grow after they hosted it in 1994, you would deny this to Qatar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, duke313 said: I'm fully aware who is hosting the 2026 World Cup, my point was around 'football culture'. It could be argued that the 50 million people in the USA who watch football now, do so because the sport was allowed to grow after they hosted it in 1994, you would deny this to Qatar? Before they bought the World Cup Qatar had a total of 1 football pitch in the whole country. How many football arenas\pitches\training grounds do you think there are in USA\Canada\Mexico? Did you answer the question about how far USA got in the first world cup above? Football is a non-sport in a country where there is zero interest in it except for a few expats and some rich oppressive old men wanting to wash their country's reputation using their wealth. They could have given it to Morroco, where you'd have the same effect, just without most of the idiocy you see in Qatar. Edited November 18, 2022 by magnkarl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, magnkarl said: Football is a non-sport in a country where there is zero interest in it except for a few expats and some rich oppressive old men wanting to wash their country's reputation using their wealth. They could have given it to Morroco, where you'd have the same effect, just without most of the idiocy you see in Qatar. I don't support the WC being in Qatar. I don't like Qatar's politics. But Arabs are crazy about football. They have a huge interest in it. I'm not talking about ruling classes - I am talking about regular people. There is a case for a WC being held in the Arab world (obviously this Qatar bullshit is all wrong) because football SHOULD be for the people around the world. Not just Germans or Brits, but for Africans or Asians. So the idea is right. But that's about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeVillan Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 One of the goals of FIFA is to increase the popularity of the sport around the globe, which we should all support. So I couldn't give a toss if a country is small compared to another more established country. Every world cup should be different and have it's identity whether it be South Africa's Vuvuzelas or Diana Ross missing a sitter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rodders Posted November 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) How predictable what a shit country Qatar is. I mean its small fry compared to the workers deaths and illegal homosexuality etc but typical of an arrogant state like that. Corruption all round. **** Qatar, **** fifa Edited November 18, 2022 by Rodders 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted November 18, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted November 18, 2022 1 hour ago, UpTheVilla26 said: I got Ghana in the work sweepstake. This World Cup is shit. I organised the work sweep for Euro 2004. I drew the pre-tournament favourites Italy. My boss was muttering that it was a fix, particularly when he got lowly Greece... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted November 18, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted November 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, mjmooney said: I organised the work sweep for Euro 2004. I drew the pre-tournament favourites Italy. My boss was muttering that it was a fix, particularly when he got lowly Greece... tell him it's the tournament of corruption. what did he expect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 1 hour ago, HanoiVillan said: Canada qualified for this tournament on merit though, would Qatar have achieved that? While true they didnt qualify since 1986 before they were awarded hosting rights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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