MSvillain

Juventus have agreed a fee for Vlahovic so I imagine this is as good as done

3 minutes ago, Steero113 said:

He is an elite passer, based on his last 4 seasons stats as well as reports from many repuatable Serie A stats gurus and pundits who watch him play. 

He is listed as having strong passing on nearly all well known football stats sites as well. 

I am not claiming to be an expert on the player, I have only seen him in CL games and last night, but cutting and pasting two or 3 extracts from a forum to suit your agenda is a little silly. 

The guy can clearly pass. 

Look at that passes into penalty area stat though, not interested!!!

2 minutes ago, Pissflaps said:

The sell on fee isn't our issue. That's Juve. He's only worth what will pay full stop, where the money goes after we buy him isn't relevant to villa. If Juve want more because of the clause then **** it move onto another option.

Back on the Bissouma bus!

Just now, tomsky_11 said:

Got no numbers on Pirlo but 12.1% of Luiz's attempted passes this season are from dead ball situations, compared to 1.6% of Bentancur's.

But are those attempted passes aesthetically pleasing to the fans? 

Nah I'm joking, interesting info!

1 minute ago, tomsky_11 said:

Possibly need to factor set pieces into those kind of numbers, same with comparing Bentancur and Luiz. Guessing Bentancur's passing numbers are are not being brought down by taking corners and free kicks in forward areas, where Luiz and Pirlo's numbers are presumably affected by this to some degree.

Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, I'm not claiming its a complete statistical analysis, pirlo probably attempted more long passes for example 

2 minutes ago, messi11 said:

This is the thing,
Juventus fans are giving their opinions from their eyes. 
Villa analytics accounts are giving their opinion from comparing fbref stats without ever seeing the player actually play. This guy below for example.
 

 

It's pass accuracy, it's a tangible, measurable metric, what are you even talking about?

According to fbref, bentancur has a pass completion % of 87.7, whereas Andrea Pirlo had 87% in the 11/12 season for juventus which rose to 89% the season after. I don't have the full figures on pass distance but I'm hoping Andrea was also held to account for awful pass accuracy

1 minute ago, Knutserov13 said:

I think the question is: Is Rodrigo Bentancur willing to join a midtable Aston Villa?

Apparently Stevie G and Lampard were his idols growing up according to a quote from 2 years ago

Smaller point in this argument is that I'd be happy not to have a key player in our starting XI going to AFCON every 2 years 

1 minute ago, romavillan said:

Poor game from both teams, mistakes at crucial moments, bad decisions. It's cold enough down here outside of rome so it must be **** baltic up there. 

Will be decided by whichever team manages to put some quality together by the look of it. Don't get why Bentancur is getting criticised he' playing next to Locatelli and looking the better player tonight.

Hes getting criticised because people made their mind up before the game and don't want to backtrack 

Can't help but feel his style may have helped us get a bit more control in the second half against Everton, not a guarantee though at all 

2 minutes ago, WHY said:

Let’s be honest if we weren’t linked to him and were watching this game there is no way anyone would think, I wish we would sign this kid.

Same could be said of locatelli and he's one of the highest rated youngsters in world football, probably why it's not a good idea to judge a player off of one game

Highest rated player on the pitch at half time according to FotMob...

He does have that languid style which I'm sure infuriates people but as long as he is patrolling the correct areas and doing his job it doesn't bother me

Locatelli who is the golden boy is having a bit of a shocker in comparison, to my eyes anyway

I can see someone in the thread is fuming bielsa got outmanaged by Eddie howe 

22 minutes ago, villalad21 said:

 Better than Grealish easy. 

Grealish must've watched that performance tonight and thought 'i used to be the one doing that' 

11 minutes ago, Woody1000 said:

According to Simon Dobson on Twitter (a football journalist with 33.4K followers)

“Bissouma is Aston Villa’s number one target after Digne. Gerrard wants him as soon as possible and believes he would improve the team massively. Brighton convinced he isn’t leaving but every player has a price.”

So our number 2 target?  

Someone prior has referenced the Ryan Kent example, who is by trade a winger but was played by gerrard in one of the number 10 roles 

8 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said:

Apparently in advanced for Bissouma now.

Source: " Trust me bro ". ( Twitter and FB people who are usually reliable )

Don't play with my feelings like this

9 minutes ago, Lochheads twin said:

Jas, balancing the books and the squad is common sense. It’s hardly being ruthless as we are not casting the out on the streets without a bean to their name.

we need to be a bit more mature about our attitude to former players. As a crowd , we seem more spiteful than most in them welcoming back. A few deserve a less than warm reception but most did their best for us.

Trez is the sort of player where there will be days when we would want his hard work and defensive protection on the right. The disgraceful dive apart, he has been solid team contributor who has chipped in with vital goals and assists as we “stabilized”. Very unlucky with injuries.

If we can improve on him, great and we do need make decisions on which of the 4 wide players we should move on. Looks like AEG first  but Traore and Bailey whist being the most eye catching seem fragile.

Exciting times ahead. UTV

 

 

We should always be able to get £10m+ from the likes of galatasaray/fenerbache for trez too 

8 minutes ago, Zhan_Zhuang said:

After Calvert-Lewin is he their best player?

Defo top 3 incl. Richardson 

We also have Chrisene who is is only 17, I believe plays primarily as a LB and is one of our highest rated youngsters so Digne could bridge that gap

2 minutes ago, nick76 said:

Literally one low tier Spanish newspaper said it, repeated by another and a Spurs fan tweet account mentioned it.  No credible person has said it, even disputed it on the original tweet (Sky dude), we have seen it no where else.  It’s a BS rumour, making very little sense and not mention by anything or anybody even half credible.

Added to that we don’t know what or how the buy option works.  From just a fee agreed which we can convert but need to agree terms with Coutinho to terms agreed with Barca and Coutinho and only us convert at our option.  We have no details apart from a “buy option” which is a little ambiguous.

Agreed, sounds like bullshit to me 

52 minutes ago, Anything11 said:

Why would spurs have anything to do with it? People are suggesting that we went to those lengths to negotiate a deal just for Barcelona to agree it with someone else. Seriously?

Finally some sense!

What's supposed to have happened; Daniel Levy just dialled in on zoom "yeah lads if villa don't take him, I'll have second dibs, how does that sound?"