Jon

It would be good if they would go after an MP or person of influence who is still alive, so that is possibly a good starting point. It's interesting that these revelations are happening in dribs and drabs. It's like they're just feeding us it to us bit by bit so that we're not overcome with disgust at what our overlords have been doing for 50 years ...

 

 

the Unite / Ed Shennighans last time around are well documented

 

Again, eh?

Ed Miller Group has since changed how the leader is elected. It is now 1 member, 1 vote.

I had a look a while back, and the Mountie had logged on recently-ish, but not posted.

WHERE ARE YOU MOUNTIE!?!

 

 

I suspect though that whoever Unite decide will win the labour contest

 

eh?

It's 1 member, 1 vote, AFAIK.

Unite hold very little sway. It's a secret ballot, and all they can do is 'recommend' that their members vote a certain way. This is perhaps the most democratic election of a UK party leader in history.

But surely R6's remit is to challenge assumptions? They get you to listen to things you might not normally listen to, even if only as a sampler. 

 

Some of Cilla's less well known stuff might even appeal to the odd hipster, if only in an ironic way. 

 

But I agree that she is normally R2 fodder. 

Slightly OT I guess, but I'm not sure 6 Music's remit is necessarily to 'challenge assumptions' as much as to partly 'push boundaries', and explore new and different, non-popular/non-chart music. Also, I would question whether me thinking (knowing?) Cilla's music was mostly shit was an assumption. To me, it's an informed position I've come to after hearing some of her 'work', so it's not really assumed, it's informed. She was a 60s pop chart music performer, and that really isn't what the listeners of 6 Music tune in for (on the whole). I don't need to hear Cilla's full back catalogue to know what her music was like, in the same way I don't have to hear every Take That song to know I think they are shit and don't want to hear them on 6 Music, You can go to Radio 2 or Radio 1 for bland, popular chart music.

I get the bit about the less well known stuff, but really, Cilla and 6 Music really isn't a good fit, tribute or not. It had me switching channels, which is not something I've had to do much where 6 Music is concerned.

Superb episode last night I thought. VV has really come into his own, and IMO is a plus point to the show.

6 Music changed their scheduling on Sunday and shoehorned in some Cilla tribute nonsense. I turned off. It's really not their remit, and can't imagine many of their listeners being into Cilla's music. It's certainly not the stuff they usually play on there. That sort of nonsense should be left to Radio 2.

The black armband sellers of Liverpool will be out in force.

 

One of the many professional scousers who live as far away from Liverpool as possible. Not a very likeable person by all accounts but as usual the media types all telling us how wonderful she was 

Hopkins isn't far off the mark with her standard drivel on this one.

 

 

I loved inside out and lava.

My wife loved it. My 3 year old daughter didn't, and left half hour before the end. As the chindster says, it's possibly more for adults than young kids.

 

Your 3 year old daughter left on her own?

 

She's very advanced for her age.

I loved inside out and lava.

I think we're fcuked without ando. He basically won us the last game in the first innings. The pitch was ideal for us too.

Not everyone in the labour party abstained.

The two things are not the same Pie.

Indeed they are not the same.

Though both can go into a pie.

Mmmmm. Lion pie  ....

FWIW, I think this Dentist of Death deserves all the shit that coming his way, and then some. Grade A rocket polisher.

Tony I wasn't joining any bandwagon, I'm not aware of anyone but us two wittering on about Mcgrath, as for Selous, not a clue who that is.

 

Students? Lost me now, I'll park this up, it all feels a bit tetchy and I'm not sure why it got like that?

Because you're chatting to Tone Loc. That was your first mistake.

 Its the actual process or seeing my bloody drain that slightly bothers me.

Then stop looking at your drain. Problem solved.  

The plus side of giving blood is that you can get drunk really easily afterwards! (i think they advise against that though!). It's also good for your health, if you have high BP.

It's a pieceof pee in all honesty (unless you are genuinely scared of needles - then I'd think twice).

Oh to have a Ray Wilkins in the middle.

To a degree, I think Westy is our Crab, although not quite up to the standards of the crafty cockney (yet).

I think shit needs to up his game this season, or dire and diabolical are going to come into contention.

  ----------------- Bozzy --------

Charles --- Ugo ---- Laursen ----- Amavi

----------------- The Crab -------------------

---- Tonev ----- C.Gardner ---- G Gardner 

-------- Angel ------- Ayew --------

Lovely stuff from NewsThump:

http://newsthump.com/2015/07/27/experts-baffled-by-popularity-of-politician-with-principles/

Politicians and commentators have admitted to being utterly baffled as to the appeal of principled politician, Jeremy Corbyn.

“No one can quite fathom Jeremy’s appeal,” said a Labour insider.

“For some reason people are enjoying hear someone speak with conviction on their own beliefs rather than toss off the usual centrist, benefit-hating, corporate-loving, vote-for-me-and-you’ll-get-a-bigger-bag-of-crisps rhetoric that they’ve been force-fed since the height of Thatcher-ism.”

Andrew Rawsley from the Observer concurred.

“Look, everyone knows that they only way Labour can win elections in this country is by being Tories with different coloured ties, so what’s the point of actually putting together an alternative?”

“Bring back Tony Blair, Oasis, and bombing Iraq,” he concluded.

Other candidates for the Labour leadership, rocked by the notion that they might actually have to put together a more coherent argument than ‘Mr Cameron is a nasty man,’ are scrabbling to find a way to defeat Mr Corbyn.

“We’re focus-grouping like mad,” said one of Yvette Cooper’s team.

“Trying to find the most popular principles that Yvette should have, then she’ll adopt them and speak from the heart. Easy.”

Liz Kendall’s team were taking a different approach.

“Blind optimism and hating poor people, it’s a solid foundation for the Labour leadership.”

Whereas Andy Burnham was taking a more pragmatic approach.

“He’s got a beard as he’s been around since the eighties,” said a Burnham insider

“We’ll just claim he’s a paedophile.”

It is expected the fad for a principled politician will end once people realise that it will involve people paying slightly more tax.

Surely the last few posts are not entirely 'On Topic' (unless this chap is running for the labour leadership, which I don't think he is).

Anyway, Jez really does seem to have a groundswell of membership support behind him, which doesn't surprise me in the slightest, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if he won on the first ballot, without the need for transferrable votes to come into play. 

The 'grass roots' of the labour party have not had a genuine 'socialist' candidate (decent one anyway) to vote for for a long time, and I think they're finding his ideas and rhetoric both appealing and accessible. Times have chnaged, and I think the majority of the labour party (members, not the MPs) are wanting a change from the Tory Lite party of the past 25 years.

Oh, I have no doubt that there are a great deal of vexatious claims just as there are obviously shockingly poor calls by employers - all like you said.

Only, the introduction of fees doesn't just address vexatious claims but, I'd have thought, would be pretty effective in putting off people with a very reasonable claim (or at least one on which a tribunal should be making a decision), especially if they've just lost their job and their ability to spare a few hundred quid or more.

The intent of the government, surely, was just to reduce claims/make taking a case to a tribunal a very unattractive proposition whether vexatious or vaild (wasn't it risky enough for vexatious claims that costs could be awarded against a claimant?). It would address two issues for them - the old 'business red tape' one and court service costs. It also would go hand in hand with their apparent intention to reduce access to the law to those with less money.

 

Edit: Perhaps this post ought to be in the Blood sucking... thread?

Aye.

**** the proles. We're heading, quite quickly, back to Victorian Britain.

On this, and many other issues.

If you're part of the elite/landed gentry, or have lots of money, you'll be fine. If not .... 

I thnk the moral of the story is don't constantly badmouth your employers on social media, especially when you have a few of the more senior staff members as 'Friends' on social media. It's never really going to end well ....